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Post by John on Jan 17, 2012 18:58:44 GMT -5
From the Stat logs these are some of the search criteria word analysis.
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This is from the last couple of days, I might start a thread off so that some of these searches are answered.
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Post by John on Jan 17, 2012 19:06:08 GMT -5
What was a "Fireman" He was a Deputy, a junior official who was primarily responsible for safety in a coal mine, a bit like a safety foreman. The term fireman as far as I'm aware was used in Welsh collieries, everywhere else he was a Deputy.
To be a Deputy, a person had to have had coalface and mining experience as laid down by law, then Tech school courses and passed a written and oral exams to achieve a Class 3 certificate of competency, I think the minimum age a man could get the ticket was 25 years of age.
He would examine his district to make sure it was safe, he'd examine the roof sides and floor, machinery, test for gas and make sure the district had plenty of materials to operate safely, like props bars, steel arches etc.. He made out statutory reports and signed them. I'm sure I've missed some aspects of a Deputy's job out.
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Post by John on Jan 17, 2012 19:09:00 GMT -5
I'll post these daily, if anyone see's something they can answer, go ahead!! Remember, these things bring folks to the site!!
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Post by John on Jan 17, 2012 19:15:45 GMT -5
sf6 switchgear "brush underground.
Ahhhh the Brush SF6 switchgear, I worked with those, both free standing switchboards and transformer mounted at Boulby Potash Mine. They are rated at 6.6Kv and are charged with an inert gas I believe was "sulphur hexafloride" to quench the arc when the breaker was tripped. The breaker was closed by charging a set of springs by a handle fitted to a spindle that protruded through the front FLP door. Once charged you pressed a button and the breaker closed.
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Post by John on Jan 18, 2012 8:49:05 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jan 18, 2012 8:53:18 GMT -5
Dresser Continuous Miner = Jeffrey Dresser Heliminer. Used in both coal and hard rock mining.
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Post by John on Jan 22, 2012 9:41:14 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jan 22, 2012 9:43:50 GMT -5
Quite interesting the search criteria people use......
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Post by dazbt on Jan 22, 2012 10:21:28 GMT -5
Quite interesting the search criteria people use...... ................ especially the one seeking Russian graffiti
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Post by John on Jan 22, 2012 12:23:52 GMT -5
Quite interesting the search criteria people use...... ................ especially the one seeking Russian graffiti No idea what it says Daz, but there is one who was searching for how we went to the toilet, to be polite... ;D In any given day, we have visitors from France, Russia, China, Australia, NZ, Canada, USA, Denmark, Spain. Poland, South Africa and several other nations.
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Post by dazbt on Jan 22, 2012 12:57:48 GMT -5
................ especially the one seeking Russian graffiti No idea what it says Daz, but there is one who was searching for how we went to the toilet, to be polite... ;D In any given day, we have visitors from France, Russia, China, Australia, NZ, Canada, USA, Denmark, Spain. Poland, South Africa and several other nations. trust me, I only live a few miles from Hatfield and it is Russian and definitly relates to a graffiti artist ..........
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Post by John on Jan 22, 2012 13:14:22 GMT -5
No idea what it says Daz, but there is one who was searching for how we went to the toilet, to be polite... ;D In any given day, we have visitors from France, Russia, China, Australia, NZ, Canada, USA, Denmark, Spain. Poland, South Africa and several other nations. trust me, I only live a few miles from Hatfield and it is Russian and definitly relates to a graffiti artist .......... Just got it translated in Babel fish.........".the stencil of graffiti"
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Post by dazbt on Jan 22, 2012 14:12:15 GMT -5
trust me, I only live a few miles from Hatfield and it is Russian and definitly relates to a graffiti artist .......... Just got it translated in Babel fish.........".the stencil of graffiti" It's not always easy to see all of the writing on the wall ........... especially if it's a Longwall !!
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Post by John on Jan 24, 2012 18:06:48 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jan 24, 2012 18:09:15 GMT -5
There's one on there that's real easy.
"Where was Clifton Pit"
Just on the north bank of the River Trent almost opposite Wilford Church. In fact Pork Farms pork pie factory sits over the old shafts.
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Post by John on Jan 24, 2012 18:13:00 GMT -5
Another easy one.......
what sort of injuries did the miners in the markham disaster 1973 suffer..
Serious!!! I don't recall how many died, but fractures of femurs, lower legs, skull, arms, pelvic and serious internal injuries. The cage looked a mess in photos.
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Post by tim on Jan 25, 2012 17:21:09 GMT -5
Crapping in a mine did make me laugh, but those not in the mining industry would take it for granted there would be toilets.
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Post by John on Jan 25, 2012 18:27:22 GMT -5
Crapping in a mine did make me laugh, but those not in the mining industry would take it for granted there would be toilets. Same here Tim, I have been asked many times about toilet facilities UG...sure we had them, blind side of the belt with a well read newspaper. plus a shovel!! ;D I used to cringe when told to look for buried pull lifts on the blind side of M/G belts....
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Post by tim on Jan 25, 2012 19:29:08 GMT -5
yeh had 15 years contracting in the Selby coalfield , worst conditions I have ever worked in, Started at at Hatfield Main. got sacked before the strike, worked at Whitemoore Mine when it was just starting off, then Riccall, then Gasgoine Wood, and finished at North Selby, couldnt find a toilet at any of them.
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Post by John on Jan 26, 2012 7:12:09 GMT -5
I remember in the 60's there was ONE, it was half way down 2's main road at Clifton, while riding the belts out we used to throw a piece of coal at the steel enclosure of it. Odd where it was place though, miles from any workings. I think Cotgrave had a few when I was there in 68, but none where needed, in each gate road. Now Australian collieries, at least the ones in NSW had a toilet at each face and some outbye, law required them and to be frequently emptied too! They were far ahead in welfare of workers, it was also in the coalmine regulations the companies had to supply washing facilities and changing rooms, ie a bathroom with showers.
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Post by dazbt on Jan 26, 2012 11:34:33 GMT -5
I remember in the 60's there was ONE, it was half way down 2's main road at Clifton, while riding the belts out we used to throw a piece of coal at the steel enclosure of it. Odd where it was place though, miles from any workings. I think Cotgrave had a few when I was there in 68, but none where needed, in each gate road. Now Australian collieries, at least the ones in NSW had a toilet at each face and some outbye, law required them and to be frequently emptied too! They were far ahead in welfare of workers, it was also in the coalmine regulations the companies had to supply washing facilities and changing rooms, ie a bathroom with showers. Didn't the M&Q Act state that underground toilet facilities had to be provided, I feel sure it did, our Forum ex management members would surely know. As for colliery baths, lockers, drying and medical facilities (as well as pre established bus shelters and cycle sheds) I believe the NCB had to provide or maintain these as part of the Miners Welfare Act (introduced in the early 1950s I think)
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Post by John on Jan 26, 2012 12:13:23 GMT -5
I remember in the 60's there was ONE, it was half way down 2's main road at Clifton, while riding the belts out we used to throw a piece of coal at the steel enclosure of it. Odd where it was place though, miles from any workings. I think Cotgrave had a few when I was there in 68, but none where needed, in each gate road. Now Australian collieries, at least the ones in NSW had a toilet at each face and some outbye, law required them and to be frequently emptied too! They were far ahead in welfare of workers, it was also in the coalmine regulations the companies had to supply washing facilities and changing rooms, ie a bathroom with showers. Didn't the M&Q Act state that underground toilet facilities had to be provided, I feel sure it did, our Forum ex management members would surely know. As for colliery baths, lockers, drying and medical facilities (as well as pre established bus shelters and cycle sheds) I believe the NCB had to provide or maintain these as part of the Miners Welfare Act (introduced in the early 1950s I think) Not sure on either point Daz, if toilets were mandated HMI never forced the issue with management nor did the NUM..
As for changing rooms/showers, NSW mandated those many years before the UK NCB was formed, they were lightyears ahead of us Daz, and they were all private enterprise excepting the power station collieries.
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Post by dazbt on Jan 26, 2012 12:56:09 GMT -5
Didn't the M&Q Act state that underground toilet facilities had to be provided, I feel sure it did, our Forum ex management members would surely know. As for colliery baths, lockers, drying and medical facilities (as well as pre established bus shelters and cycle sheds) I believe the NCB had to provide or maintain these as part of the Miners Welfare Act (introduced in the early 1950s I think) Not sure on either point Daz, if toilets were mandated HMI never forced the issue with management nor did the NUM..
As for changing rooms/showers, NSW mandated those many years before the UK NCB was formed, they were lightyears ahead of us Daz, and they were all private enterprise excepting the power station collieries.Mines and Quarrie3s Act 1954 Sanitary conveniences..
(1)It shall be the duty of the manager of every mine to secure the provision thereat (as well below as above ground) of sufficient and suitable sanitary conveniences for the use of persons employed thereat being, in a case where persons of both sexes are, or are intended to be, so employed, conveniences affording proper separate accommodation for persons of each sex. . (2)All sanitary conveniences provided in pursuance of the foregoing subsection shall be kept clean and properly maintained and reasonable provision shall be made for lighting them."provision shall be made for lighting them" ............. cartoon vision of a "Porta Potti" in a man-hole and a bloke with a wet sack over his head with a candle on the end of an extremely long pole
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Post by John on Jan 31, 2012 13:20:18 GMT -5
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Post by spanker on Jan 31, 2012 15:22:20 GMT -5
I f i recall correctly i had been out the night before locally savouring the barmy nectar in Staveley, Derbyshire with one of the young lads at that time who miraculously survived the cage disaster at Markham with dissabilitating injuries which took him years to recover from but he is still walking around to this day. He spent a very long time in Chesterfield royal' It was very unfortunate as he was a young lad at that time of 18 who actually was just completing his coal face training,for some reason Markham and Ireland coal face trainees had to go to one or tother to do the stable hole training can't remember which way round it was anyhows alot of the victims were considerably shorter in body length when recovered as there legs had been shoved into their torso's. When i went to Markham from Ireland in 84 with a face team we went into the old Waterloo workings where i then took over with an excellent Markham face team who were very active at the time of the disaster and a few of the men retreaved bodies from the no2 pit bottom taking them down the very steep and hazardous 2 to 4 drift and out via the no4 pit. This disaster had a very big impression on my mining career as it did many,the day i started in July 75 and every day after for 20 years when i entered the cage i was scared to death and wondered if it was my last i hated every shaft ride but never what followed after alighting, the stories from my old Markham face team never helped as they were first at hand to the scene, when waiting to go down my old main gate machine man who was a strong as a bull and hard as nails used to grab my shoulder and say not that side Spanker wait for the next draw he would never ride the side that went down and more often than not i would ride the top deck just to be safe! Ironically the disaster was the first shift back after our 2 weeks shut down. You know when i think back mining was areally tough career and a big learning curve for young lads,god knows how the boys and girls of a bygone age must have felt when underground with no bloody cap lamps and waiting for a knock on the door by mum so she could hurry out with her tub. God bless all who worked down the pits and lost their lives.
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Post by John on Jan 31, 2012 15:43:30 GMT -5
I was working at one of BG's gypsum mines when that happened more like an underground quarry really with very few dangers.
Next place was Boulby Potash mine, the only time I was really scared there was having to climb over the guard rail onto the top of the skips at tipping level to change a proximity switch out. I'd don a full safety harness, empty my pockets of all loose items, tie a length of string to my tools I'd be using, other end to my belt. They hated you if you dropped anything down the shaft!!! Then I would lean over, lash the safety lanyard to one of the winding ropes, then climb over, I was still pretty nervous!! Got the job done and get back over as quickly as possible. Never look down!!! One very deep black hole!!
I was also pretty nervous doing the same job at loading level, 30 foot below Onset. I'd phone the Banksman before entering the shaft with strict instructions not to to allow anyone near shaft side. Even a small quarter inch screw would be a deadly missile by the time it reached me.
I rode those shafts many times on my own, winter and summer on call outs to the rock shaft tower, never really felt nervous.
I think we all think about a rope failure at some time or another, Boulby's braking was fail to safety, totally different design to Markhams.
Garry is the expert on winders, he also worked on Boulby's winders, so he might add a bit more.
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Post by John on Jan 31, 2012 15:59:52 GMT -5
Garry may recall this time period, No1 winder was being commissioned, I'm sure he was still at Boulby at that time. There was a 25 man limit imposed for some reason and we could only use the small deck on the No2 shaft, I forget the number it held, but 18 seems to spring to mind, the big cage was out of order for a reason that escapes me now.
I was the selected electrician to go underground, with John Littleton, winder/shafts and ore handling electrical foreman and we had a service engineer who was to commission the skip weighing flasks for the company who made them.
It was his first time down any mine, let alone the deepest operating in the UK!! Nervous??? He sure was, real spooked out. Littleton said to me "don't scare him whatever you do, and when we ride out leave him alone" ;D ;D I think it was Friday the 13th too!! ;D
OK, I never said a thing, I had a couple of jobs and calls to sort out, and ended back at the loading level for an hour or two.
End of shift, word had got around about this feller being on his first trip down a mine.... I wonder who spread that rumour ;D ;D Weren't me guv, honest!! ;D
Anyway, was a real tight squeeze on the cage with all of us in there, the engineer was smack in the middle of everyone when someone said, " It was a year today that the rope broke wasn't it, plunging umpteen men to their deaths" or words to that effect. This carried on for the rest of the ride out, about ten minutes, I'm sure the feller passed out at one stage, he was as white as a sheet when we arrived at bank.... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by John on Feb 2, 2012 9:11:11 GMT -5
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Post by John on Feb 2, 2012 9:12:48 GMT -5
Deepest collieries in the UK I would presume were in Lancashire, in the Manchester area.
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Post by shropshirebloke on Feb 2, 2012 10:22:50 GMT -5
It would appear (thank you Google..) that the deepest workings were at Parsonage in Lancs. The deepest shaft was at Wolstanton near Stoke in N. Staffs.
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