Hucknall memorial

[plantfit]

Different to the usual headstock wheels



What do you think

Roger

[dazbt]

Certainly different to most others.

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[John]

I took the liberty of editing your post Roger, there was part of the code missing.

[plantfit]

Thanks John, just for the record the memorial is about 15-20feet high

Roger

[sharon]

is that near griffiths way, in hucknall.

[colly0410]

Jul 31, 2015 0:31:33 GMT -5 sharon said:

is that near griffiths way, in hucknall.

Not far away, it's on the corner of Station Road & Ashgate Road near Tesco petrol station & the Tram/Train station car park..

[sharon]

my husband lost his life in that mine in 1978,  to be honest i am so glad the pit has gone,  no one else can be injured now,

[colly0410]

Very sorry to hear of your loss Sharon. Just about every driver stood up to drive when I was down Hucknall, even though they were not supposed to, you would have very low visibility while sitting down. They were all Ruston small 4 wheeler's (18 horse power 2 cylinder I think) when I left where the driver sat sideways & looked through porthole like things to see where they were going. There is a 'Hucknall pictutes' group on facebook with some photos of Hucknall pit bottom, a few ex miners (me included) have put comments on it, could be worth a look. Hope this helps..

[sharon]

thank you, i know its been a long time, but you never forget, i dont understand why the  mine owners  safety ppl or whatever did not realise there was an accident waiting to happen,

[John]

Aug 1, 2015 4:12:48 GMT -5 sharon said:

thank you, i know its been a long time, but you never forget, i dont understand why the  mine owners  safety ppl or whatever did not realise there was an accident waiting to happen,

I worked in two countries in coal mining, both had similar regulations, UK and Australia, unfortunately, you can have rules and regs for everything, but if men don't adhere to them, they just don't work.

In the UK we had a fining system for breaking the rules, if caught! But we still broke the rules, most of the time we got away with it, but there were occasions where someone died.
One electrician broke the law in a South Wales Colliery, it caused the death of everyone on the face he worked on, nearly every man I worked with rode the conveyor belts, in most collieries it was illegal.

Training in NCB/BC collieries was the finest in the world, with safety being drilled into us, but all the training in the world and all the rules regulations and laws in the world are useless if we don't obey them, that's where men lose their lives. The Mines and Quarries Act was made from the blood of men and boys, nearly every regulation was enacted after an accident, some could have been foreseen, others were true accidents.

The last mine I worked at before leaving Australia was in potash, it was unique, as we learned as we went along, nothing in the UK was like it and mines in other countries didn't have the same conditions we saw. We lost several men due to unforeseen things, one was a large gas blow, another was a side wall collapse, things no other mineral mine in the UK had ever experienced. Rules were implemented by the company to make sure these types of accidents could every occur again.

But, they still had a couple of fatalities that could have been avoided, men breaking the rules, companies usually cannot be blamed for negligence by their employees breaking rules.

I've broken rules, every man who worked down any mine has, we took short cuts, each carries risks, most of the time we got away with the risk taking. I never risked others lives, any rule breaking on my part was risking my safety not others.

I said posted this the other day, one good thing that came out of closing the industry down, no more black lung, no more wives worrying their men would come home in one piece.

But in saying that, the UK does still have mining in other minerals and those men still face danger.

[sharon]

i understand what yr saying about rule breaking, but in robs case the coal board took one hundred percent blame, which means it was their fault not is, every time i see mining accidents it turns my stomache, i am so glad the mines been closed, no more accidents or widows,  i do appreciate all the replies you have all sent me  and the things you have explained, thank you all for helping me understand.

[John]

Aug 8, 2015 18:46:49 GMT -5 sharon said:

i understand what yr saying about rule breaking, but in robs case the coal board took one hundred percent blame, which means it was their fault not is, every time i see mining accidents it turns my stomache, i am so glad the mines been closed, no more accidents or widows,  i do appreciate all the replies you have all sent me  and the things you have explained, thank you all for helping me understand.

I've lost a couple of mates in accidents, one underground and one in a surface accident that should never happened, affected all of us on the electrical staff, and thanks to the engineer's hard work, will never happen again. That accident led to world wide rules on transformer oil storage and testing. He worked hard to get his ideas accepted and passed on to every mining country and oil company that manufactured transformer oils.

The other mate I lost was from an unforeseeable accident accident. The company suspended all mining operations and carried out two full weeks of remedial safety work.

[sharon]

i guess if an accident  brings changes in safety then its a good thing,