Wollaton Pit Accident 1921

[bobthebee]

My cousin's Grandfather Arthur Simpson was killed in November 1921 in an accident at Wollaton Pit. We have never been able to find any detail or press reports, and all he has is the bill for a grave in the church at Radford dated 3/12/1921.

Is there anywhere we counld find out more information?

[John]

Sept 17, 2011 12:10:06 GMT -5 bobthebee said:

My cousin's Grandfather Arthur Simpson was killed in November 1921 in an accident at Wollaton Pit. We have never been able to find any detail or press reports, and all he has is the bill for a grave in the church at Radford dated 3/12/1921.

Is there anywhere we counld find out more information?

The only place I could thing of is the Nottingham Evening Post archives, but as you say you couldn't find any press reports, then it looks like you've tried.

Another place, but it's a real long shot, is the Mines Inspectorate, now a part of Health and Safety Executive...

You may even try Hansard, the governments Parliamentary record. It's amazing what I found in Hansard regarding Clifton Colliery.
It's all posted on line way back to the early 1900's.

[bobthebee]

Thanks John,
It'll be nice to have somewhere new to start, and know we're not missing the obvious route.
Bob

[dazbt]

Sept 17, 2011 12:10:06 GMT -5 bobthebee said:

My cousin's Grandfather Arthur Simpson was killed in November 1921 in an accident at Wollaton Pit. We have never been able to find any detail or press reports, and all he has is the bill for a grave in the church at Radford dated 3/12/1921.

Is there anywhere we counld find out more information?

I'm afraid that in the case of your Arthur Simpson the following link is of no use, it seems he isn't listed, but for other's information this is a fairly extensive and searchable list of deaths and injuries in UK mines originally compiled by Ian Winstanley;

www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/home/index.html

[bobthebee]

Thanks for that Dazbt

[bibobs]

Hi Re your query
Arthur Simpson 63 Fall of roof Radford Colliery 29-11-1921
inquest Hyson Green Coroners Court 01-12-1921
A report will be in the Nottingham papers for that date
Angel Row Library Floor 1{Four newspapers that period}
Bibobs

[dazbt]

That 's a great break through for 'bobthebee', I notice he hasn't been back on since the negatives, perhaps a contact email from you J would be a good way to transmit 'bibobs' info.

[John]

I'll add this as it may seem confusing, Wollaton and Radford Collieries were owned by the same company. Wollaton had two shafts and Radford had one shaft, the two collieries were linked by a drift, as Radford was deeper due to the coal seams dipping from west to east.
Radford was due east of Wollaton, probably around half to three quarters of a mile.
Radford was part of Wollatons ventilation scheme.
I don't have a lot of information on either collieries, in hind sight I should have done more research when I worked in the industry in the 1960's, at that time I worked along side several ex Wollaton and Radford men.

Another snippet of info, 1923 Manager of Radford was Mr W. Pattison, the colliery employed 500 men underground and 80 on the surface.

Mr J.E. Jones was Manager of Wollaton Colliery with 764 men employed underground and 140 on the surface.
Seams worked at that time were the Deep Soft and Deep Hard.

Radford was closed in 1961 and Wollaton closed in 1965.

[bibobs]

Hi John, if you get anymore queries re fatal aciidents I have in my data base 4.100 Derbyshire 3,278 Notts and about 350 Leicestershire plus over 2,000 injured and admiited to Nottingham General hospital
Cheers Bibobs

[John]

Dec 31, 2011 16:16:33 GMT -5 bibobs said:

Hi John, if you get anymore queries re fatal aciidents I have in my data base 4.100 Derbyshire 3,278 Notts and about 350 Leicestershire plus over 2,000 injured and admiited to Nottingham General hospital
Cheers Bibobs

Thanks, we may get some requests on that score.
I only recall a couple of accidents at Clifton, Tony Sellers had to have one leg amputated just below the knee, a grotschell (SP) Bar fell on the AFC and the forked end pinned him to a Dowty prop one day shift.
Same face, T/G rip hit a slip, one ripper was cleaning up, name has long gone from my memory now, but a large piece of rock rolled out, broke his back, he never walked again.
Chock fitter, either on 10's or 12's, again a long time ago to recall, lost a finger in the shearer chain guide after he'd reached over and knocked the haulage into neutral due to shearer being stalled and the driver was a little ahead of the shearer. He lost his balance, put his hand on the haulage chain as he went over, one little finger taken off back to it's joint.
All those happened between 1964 and 1968.
A couple more that required hospital treatment, Doug Brompton slipped trying to get off a belt before a stopping, he collided with the wall and the belt eventually threw him off, he had some head injuries and concussion, and my charge hand, Ken Goodall had a nasty gash on his forehead that required stitches when he hit a broken strut while riding out one morning.