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Post by Wheldale on Feb 18, 2010 5:55:06 GMT -5
My dad worked at Wheldale colliery, the shafts havent been filled for gas generation reasons, like at Askern. Does anyone else know of any closed collierys were the shafts have not been filled?
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Post by John on Feb 18, 2010 8:14:56 GMT -5
There are hundreds spread around the coalfields, most date back to pre nationalisation. The NCB/BC did make it their duty to fill shafts at all their collieries with the concrete capping on the top.
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 18, 2010 13:38:32 GMT -5
Many thanks for your reply, I was wondering if anyone knew of any mines that had been closed were the shafts had'nt been filled for such reasons as monitoring gas, water, ventilation etc.
I think one shaft at Allerton Bywater is used as a monitoring station for the Wheldale scheme, also I think a shaft at Ellington is used for monitring water levels. I just wondered if there any more shafts out there?
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Post by andyexplorer on Jan 12, 2011 7:15:24 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jan 12, 2011 9:03:05 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone lost their life in that one?? This is one of the legacies of deep mining, shaft infill being washed out as the mine floods, then the material in the shaft "slumping". There's some very deep shafts in Manchester too!! |
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Post by andyexplorer on Jan 12, 2011 9:46:24 GMT -5
Not to sure : but when i get round to it i will be going to the Bolton archive to look at all the documentation from the Ladyshaw colliery which is where the photo came from
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Post by John on Jan 13, 2011 7:29:45 GMT -5
Not to sure : but when i get round to it i will be going to the Bolton archive to look at all the documentation from the Ladyshaw colliery which is where the photo came from I don't think that's one of the Ladyshaw's shafts, doing a Google search I found this.. wikimapia.org/16303217/Site-of-old-ladyshore-collieryLooks like the old Ladyshaw colliery is on open land, that photo appears to be in the city. Be interesting to find out where it was taken and what colliery the shaft belonged to. |
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Post by andyexplorer on Jan 13, 2011 11:38:15 GMT -5
No it's not, what i meant was i live near the site of ladyshore pit (not as i spelt it before ) which is quite a famous mine the area is littered with dozens of mines
which is part of my interest .The picture came from the Bolton archive where they hold every bit of paper relating to Ladyshore pit plus many documents related to most mines in this area It is my intention to go and visit the archive when i get the time
now i am curious as to which pit was closest to that collape so i will investigate !
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Post by andyexplorer on Jan 13, 2011 11:44:21 GMT -5
Many thanks for your reply, I was wondering if anyone knew of any mines that had been closed were the shafts had'nt been filled for such reasons as monitoring gas, water, ventilation etc. I think one shaft at Allerton Bywater is used as a monitoring station for the Wheldale scheme, also I think a shaft at Ellington is used for monitring water levels. I just wondered if there any more shafts out there? Here is a photo of one of two shafts that were capped at Sutton Manor in St helens both have large valves on them there is another old mine site at Farnworth Bridge that has several 2" diameter pipes with metat plugs on top that are in good working order which suggests that someone comes round and releases them www.suttonbeauty.org.uk/suttonmanorcolliery/photoalbum_files/page22-1024-full.html |
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Post by John on Jan 13, 2011 13:07:44 GMT -5
No it's not, what i meant was i live near the site of ladyshore pit (not as i spelt it before ) which is quite a famous mine the area is littered with dozens of mines which is part of my interest .The picture came from the Bolton archive where they hold every bit of paper relating to Ladyshore pit plus many documents related to most mines in this area It is my intention to go and visit the archive when i get the time now i am curious as to which pit was closest to that collape so i will investigate ! There are hundreds of old shafts not documented, as they were sunk and the pit closed before the law required survey maps on workings. There's a good possibility that collapsed one was one such unknown shaft. I'm going by the fact older houses are shown in the vicinity and a couple that have gone down the shaft. Deep coal mining in Lancs goes back to the early part of the 18th century when steam driven pumps came on the scene. Even old NCB shafts are starting to collapse, probably due to the fact the pit bottom wasn't bricked up or concreted, and the aggregate has washed out causing the shaft infill to slump. |
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Post by John on Jan 13, 2011 13:09:25 GMT -5
Many thanks for your reply, I was wondering if anyone knew of any mines that had been closed were the shafts had'nt been filled for such reasons as monitoring gas, water, ventilation etc. I think one shaft at Allerton Bywater is used as a monitoring station for the Wheldale scheme, also I think a shaft at Ellington is used for monitring water levels. I just wondered if there any more shafts out there? Here is a photo of one of two shafts that were capped at Sutton Manor in St helens both have large valves on them there is another old mine site at Farnworth Bridge that has several 2" diameter pipes with metat plugs on top that are in good working order which suggests that someone comes round and releases them www.suttonbeauty.org.uk/suttonmanorcolliery/photoalbum_files/page22-1024-full.htmlThose pipes are probably there to drain methane. |
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Post by andyexplorer on Jan 13, 2011 15:30:01 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jan 13, 2011 16:28:41 GMT -5
Looks like the seam has been on fire in the open cut with the old bord and pillar mine. All that red colour points to burnt coal. |
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Post by inbye on Jan 23, 2011 9:53:33 GMT -5
The shaft at Lepton Edge is still open. It's still in use as a pumping station to dewater the strata down as far as the Caphouse museum. The old winding engine house still stands, no doubt used as a substation.
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Post by Wheldale on Jan 23, 2011 15:19:49 GMT -5
I work in Huddersfield and noticed the Winding house last year as I drove past. Might stop next time and have a look. Were abouts were the Speedwell and Noggin shafts around Emley Moor? Is there anything still to see?
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Post by inbye on Jan 24, 2011 15:19:48 GMT -5
I work in Huddersfield and noticed the Winding house last year as I drove past. Might stop next time and have a look. Were abouts were the Speedwell and Noggin shafts around Emley Moor? Is there anything still to see? Speedwell pit was about threequarters of the way from Emley Moor pit, up towards the mast. Nineclogs (so named as a member of a five man team, had a wooden leg) was behind Emley Moor, on the road to Skelmanthorpe (station road?). Follow this road from the junction just below Emley Moor, after about half a mile there's a fairly tight left hand bend, Nineclogs was on the right. If you compare the industrial estate at Emley Moor, with pics when the pit was working, you will see they used a number of the old pit buildings. I don't think there's anything at the other sites. Lepton Edge closed in 1964, it was a single shaft pit (downcast), the return air came back up a drift. It was an extremely wet pit. If you study the position of the colliery, it's clear it was sunk on a massive fault, presumably so the shaft hit the same seams twice. I *think* that's what happened but it also meant they mined far more water than coal. The pit also had it's own washer plant (can't remember the name) & only aquired pit head baths in the late ninteen fifties. It was also of note as the headgear was formed from pre-cast concrete. Hope this is of interest... |
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Post by Wheldale on Jan 26, 2011 14:37:10 GMT -5
hi Inbye, why did Emley close? No reserves or did it not fit in with coal board plans?
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Post by inbye on Jan 26, 2011 15:17:48 GMT -5
hi Inbye, why did Emley close? No reserves or did it not fit in with coal board plans? Hiya Mate, Why did it close?.........in a word (3 to be precise) Margaret Bloody Thatcher. I was from the next door pit, Park Mill, but knew some lads from Emley Moor. Plenty of coal, good working atmosphere......OK, seams were on the thin side, but they managed to get a shearer down there, for the last few years...........a criminal shame. A group who took redunancy explored the possibility of sinking thier own drift in Park Mill pit yard (the Clayton West end) and literally *sunk* tens of thousands into having a feasibility study carried out. Came to nothing.....more politics. Both pits are now industrial estates........just a memory of the once fine industry which gave birth to the industrial revolution. Cheers... |
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Post by Wheldale on Jan 26, 2011 17:25:20 GMT -5
i used to live at Kirkburton, now live in Brighouse and know the areas. I belive the Flacks from Hay Royds wanted to use the Calder drift after it closed. no mining there now. I reckon small mines with hand got methods would thrive in the thin seams, shame its too hard to open small mines now.
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Post by inbye on Jan 27, 2011 13:41:39 GMT -5
i used to live at Kirkburton, now live in Brighouse and know the areas. I belive the Flacks from Hay Royds wanted to use the Calder drift after it closed. no mining there now. I reckon small mines with hand got methods would thrive in the thin seams, shame its too hard to open small mines now. It's been hard to open a pit for quite a while, unfortunately. Cllr Arthur Manby managed to aquire & re-equip the Six Lane Ends colliery, in flockton. The mine was pumped out, equipped with Loco haulage & a surface screen. He'd previously owned Temple Drift at Upper Whitley, so was a bona-fide mining man, yet when he applied to sink a new drift at Bentley Springs, (a few hundred yards from the Springwood end of Park Mill) the application was thrown out by Barnsley town council. This was back in the late sixties. The reason Barnsley town council gave was, that the area was "the jewel in their crown". I always thought this was laughable, as the one & only reason for the existence of Barnsley, is Coal. Cllr Manby was a councillor on the wrong council. So that made it so that Flack's were the last private pit in the area, perhaps the county. People could walk thro' the woods, within 100yds of Hay Royds pit & not even know it was there, even if they did it would surely be a "talking point" on thier walk. When the coal runs out, watch what happens....... |
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Post by inbye on Jan 27, 2011 13:50:40 GMT -5
Apologies for taking this thread off topic. Title says "Shafts that haven't been filled" & here I am bangin' on about private drifts.......soz  |
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Post by Wheldale on Jan 27, 2011 15:37:27 GMT -5
Its my fault Inbye, maybe I should start a new thread! You got me interested in the mines around Huddersfield.
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