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Post by John on May 29, 2007 13:43:27 GMT -5
Dogs Bollocks Those hard ball shaped nodules of ironstone found in the face.
Buttucks.. right and left side of a longwall advancing face to allow the shearers drum to enter the face when pushing the AFC over.
Crown.. The top section of a steel arch in a roadway.
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Post by limey on May 30, 2007 7:50:53 GMT -5
Tadger - the (heavy) electric motor used to drive rock drills. In some places it was called a "titch", and in Staffs they called it a "rams head".
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Post by John on May 30, 2007 8:05:31 GMT -5
We used to call them "Rams heads" too in Nottingham.
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Post by limey on May 30, 2007 8:40:16 GMT -5
Someone who refused overtime was "on a promise"! - And if you looked a little sleepy in the morning (who didn't), it was because you had been "nestin"!
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Post by John on May 30, 2007 14:29:08 GMT -5
Fast end, rib side of the stable hole.
Elephants foot, don't recall the make, but a huge powered hydraulic prop.
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Post by Clive on Jun 11, 2007 16:17:11 GMT -5
feigh..thats the ripping at grimebridge...to 'feigh up' was to do the ripping
Britches arse steam....workin hard
sump...rather than stable hole in Alston
Bobbers...iron stone noduals
baum pots... summat similar
hows everybody keepin. Aint hered from Daz in Yonks thought he's gon to that great transformer in the sky......where the deputys tuck you in
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Post by John on Jun 12, 2007 7:46:30 GMT -5
feigh..thats the ripping at grimebridge...to 'feigh up' was to do the ripping Britches arse steam....workin hard sump...rather than stable hole in Alston Bobbers...iron stone noduals baum pots... summat similar hows everybody keepin. Aint hered from Daz in Yonks thought he's gon to that great transformer in the sky......where the deputys tuck you in Hi Clive, Daz is around, I'm doing fine, glad yer dropped in. Do it more often mate! |
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Post by jimmarsh on Aug 15, 2007 13:30:40 GMT -5
In Derbyshire:
The "bull rail" was the length of "H" section steel beam used to support the lip.
A "bantle" was the term used for an ascent or descent of the cage. If you were one too many for the cage capacity, you'd ride an the next "bantle".
"Gob" or "Gobbins" was the mined out area left by the advancing face.
"Pipe" was a term used for the cutter cable, possibly a throwback to the days of compressed air drives.
"Eowd up" was a warning expression repeated by each man in a line of men walking to the face when an obstruction was encountered . . something on which a person could trip or slip.
"Eowd aht" (hold out) was used to signify shift end.
"Hammerjack" was used for the coal drill, again possibly a throwback term from compressed air days.
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Post by linbylad on Aug 15, 2007 21:07:49 GMT -5
When I was 23 I moved from Linby Village to Calverton Village and made a new group of friends in the Miner's Welfare and the local pubs. Some of the young lads referred to one of the local girls using a mining term. I asked why and was told "when you screw her, she likes it real slow".
Her nickname? . . . . . . . . . one rack! ;D
Linby Lad
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Post by dazbt on Aug 16, 2007 4:09:16 GMT -5
When I was 23 I moved from Linby Village to Calverton Village and made a new group of friends in the Miner's Welfare and the local pubs. Some of the young lads referred to one of the local girls using a mining term. I asked why and was told "when you screw her, she likes it real slow". Her nickname? . . . . . . . . . one rack! ;D Linby Lad I think I knew her aunty, Fanny Flit |
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Post by John on Aug 16, 2007 6:45:51 GMT -5
Behave you two! There are women members!
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Post by John on Aug 16, 2007 6:46:44 GMT -5
What years were you at Calverton Linby??
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Post by linbylad on Aug 16, 2007 12:39:50 GMT -5
John, I lived in the cottages just below the pub in Linby village from 1960-64 and on Pepper Road in Calverton, a stones throw from The Cherry Tree, from 1964 to 1972.
Linby Lad.
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Post by John on Aug 16, 2007 13:07:02 GMT -5
John, I lived in the cottages just below the pub in Linby village from 1960-64 and on Pepper Road in Calverton, a stones throw from The Cherry Tree, from 1964 to 1972. Linby Lad. There was an apprentice lecko who started same time as me and was in the same group through training and tech, his first name was Gordon, will have to put the thinking cap on for his last name. I started my apprenticeship at Clifton in 1963. As soon as his last name comes to me I'll post it. He live in Calverton, I think the miners village, not sure. |
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Post by linbylad on Aug 16, 2007 13:38:52 GMT -5
I never worked at Calverton, John, spent my British working life entirely at Linby Colliery. I traveled from Calverton to Linby every day, the first year on a bloody push bike and it was uphill both ways! Burnt-stump hill just about killed me.
Linby Lad.
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Post by Ragger on Aug 16, 2007 14:48:37 GMT -5
Just a bit of useless info John, but Calverton was the first place in the Midlands I visited. My sister and her husband moved there, 50's/ 60's.
They moved back up north after a few years, but their friends who moved there about the same time are still living in Calverton.
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Post by Ragger on Aug 16, 2007 14:56:16 GMT -5
Just a bit of useless info John, but Calverton was the first place in the Midlands I visited. My sister and her husband moved there, 50's/ 60's. They moved back up north after a few years, but their friends who moved there about the same time are still living in Calverton. I remember my brother in law, Bob, telling me about a lad he was working with who kept calling him youth, pass this youth, or, do so and so youth. He was getting a bit agitated with all the youth comments until he realised it was just something they said all the time. |
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Post by John on Aug 16, 2007 15:24:39 GMT -5
Never been to Calverton Bill, either village or pit, but "youth" was a common name to call anyone during the 60's.
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Post by limey on Aug 20, 2007 8:46:54 GMT -5
When I worked at Donisthorpe, it was common practice to prefix everybody's name with "owd" - so we would have "Owd Fred", "Owd Tony", etc. Of course, I would be referred to as "Owd Eric", except that (somewhat surprisingly) there was another Eric on the face - So, miners being the inventive types they are, the original Eric was called "Owd Eric", and I was referred to as "Owd Young Eric"! It still makes me laugh thinking about it - they were fun times crawling around in the dirt - but I wouldn't go back!
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Post by jimmarsh on Aug 21, 2007 13:11:44 GMT -5
At Swanwick Colliery (locally known as 'Morewood's Pit' after the pre-NCB owner's family name) "youth" was commonly used as a mode of address where one might use 'buddy' or 'mate' today. Others were "My Owd" or "Miduck" . . a general form of greeting, as in "Eyup my owd" or "Eyup miduck".
These terms and many others are the subject of a book called "Ey Up Mi Duck (An affectionate look at the speech, history and folklore of Ilkeston, Derbyshire and the Erewash Valley)." The authors are Richard Scollins and John Titford. The book contains priceless examples of Derbyshire pit dialects and terms. One example would be the town named above - Ilkeston, known locally as "Ilson".
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Post by John on Aug 21, 2007 13:59:50 GMT -5
I had a paper of Ilkeston terminology once, it could well be on my old computers hard drive, I'll have to hook it up and do a search for it, print it out and scan and post it here if I find it.
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Post by limey on Aug 22, 2007 12:46:44 GMT -5
What I thought to be a unique "Ilsonism" was to call people "sorry" - as in "Ey up sorry" - maybe it should be "soree". It always struck me as an odd term.
When I went to college in Stoke-on-Trent there was a book called "Arfur Towkrate" - "How to Talk Right" in proper English! It was pretty funny, and similar to the "Ey Up Mi Duck" version!
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Post by Ragger on Aug 22, 2007 13:41:08 GMT -5
Not really mining terms but good old Midland dialect.
TOW'D MAN.
NUFF SAID
PUT TWOOD INTOIL
NA'THEN :
ART A BALMPOT
THA' WHAT
HEYUP
FAIR TO MIDDLIN'
BAH GUM OR EE BAH GUM
GERROF :
GI US ONE THEN
THA'LL GET NO CHANGE OUTER THAT ONE
BENT AS A BUTCHER'S HOOK :
GERRON WI THEE
ZENNY ONYA CUMMIN WIMMY
DO LALLY TAP
MIND THYSEN
EIGHT IT
ON NEETS
TOW'D DRAGON
EARALL SAYNOWT
GERROUTTERTHEER
THA'NOSE NOWT
MARDY
GOBSMACKED
TINT :
OH ECK :
ALBELT THY ONE
ANTHEE ANOWL
THADNONEED TA BOTHER THYSEN
TWERNT
AHM PIGGED OFF
GERRINWITHY
GOINDAN'T ROWAD
NATHENCLEVERCLOGS
ATHAGONNABREWUPTHEN
AHMGOIN'AHT
HEGIDITME
Shin tin!
Gie ovver blartin!
Thart gooin rahnd Wahsup to get ter Mansfild!
Put wood in thole
Giz a chew a yer sprigger
Gerront causey"
Shurrup scratin yer mardarse
stop yer mythering".
"scratin'" (crying)
Aya gorra weeya?
It's black uvver Bill's mother's
corshucan"
"Ay, it's a rum un!".
Croaker -
Duck's necks
Gorra bag on -
Laropped -
Nesh -
Page owl
Skants
The rally
Thiz summat up wee im
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Post by dazbt on Aug 22, 2007 14:10:46 GMT -5
What I thought to be a unique "Ilsonism" was to call people "sorry" - as in "Ey up sorry" - maybe it should be "soree". It always struck me as an odd term. When I went to college in Stoke-on-Trent there was a book called "Arfur Towkrate" - "How to Talk Right" in proper English! It was pretty funny, and similar to the "Ey Up Mi Duck" version! Surry, Surrie derived from a now obsolete Sirrah (or Sirrha) a greeting originally based on the word Sir. Used up here in South Yorkshire as an equivalent to Mate or Pal, was in common usage around Barnsley up to around the 1970s but seems to have disappeared apart from the occasional use. |
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Post by dazbt on Aug 22, 2007 14:14:51 GMT -5
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Post by limey on Aug 22, 2007 14:57:41 GMT -5
Surry, Surrie derived from a now obsolete Sirrah (or Sirrha) a greeting originally based on the word Sir. Used up here in South Yorkshire as an equivalent to Mate or Pal, was in common usage around Barnsley up to around the 1970s but seems to have disappeared apart from the occasional use. Daz - thanks, that makes sense, but still strange that it used to show up (fairly commonly) in Ilkeston, but not in Heanor, Eastwood, Nottingham or Long Eaton! Some bugger must 'ave moved there and teken it wi im! |
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Post by dazbt on Aug 22, 2007 18:51:30 GMT -5
Surry, Surrie derived from a now obsolete Sirrah (or Sirrha) a greeting originally based on the word Sir. Used up here in South Yorkshire as an equivalent to Mate or Pal, was in common usage around Barnsley up to around the 1970s but seems to have disappeared apart from the occasional use. Daz - thanks, that makes sense, but still strange that it used to show up (fairly commonly) in Ilkeston, but not in Heanor, Eastwood, Nottingham or Long Eaton! Some bugger must 'ave moved there and teken it wi im! Surry, Surrie derived from a now obsolete Sirrah (or Sirrha) a greeting originally based on the word Sir. Used up here in South Yorkshire as an equivalent to Mate or Pal, was in common usage around Barnsley up to around the 1970s but seems to have disappeared apart from the occasional use. Daz - thanks, that makes sense, but still strange that it used to show up (fairly commonly) in Ilkeston, but not in Heanor, Eastwood, Nottingham or Long Eaton! Some bugger must 'ave moved there and teken it wi im! Taken me a while, but I eventually found this better definition, (although I think the author read the same Bible that I did); www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/voices2005/features/steve_birks.shtml |
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Post by John on Aug 22, 2007 20:48:35 GMT -5
Surry and "Yoath" seemed pretty common in Nottingham during the 60's.
In North Yorks a common greeting was "Nahthen" said as one word.
A word denoting a small piece of rock, say about the size of a large bread roll in Gypsum was called a scob. Never heard that used anywhere else.
Some of the terms I heard from "imports" from Geordieland and Sunderland into Notts pits were "codgerend" for the return roller/boot end of a belt, bagging for a hose, more Yorkshire than anything. Bait for snap.
Tea break in Australia was "smoko"
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Post by limey on Aug 23, 2007 9:02:39 GMT -5
Daz - thanks, that's an interesting article. I am surprised he didn't pick up on one bit of Potteries dialect - when I lived there, Burslem was pronounced "Boslem"! The strangest thing was that hills are referred to as "banks" but pronounced "bonk". People would tell you to go "up bonk" if they meant "up the hill".
A friend from the London area came to visit me there and couldn't understand a word anybody said - I have the same problem with real Geordies!
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Post by linbylad on Aug 23, 2007 17:00:56 GMT -5
Nothing to do with mining terms but an Irishman who worked at Linby heard everybody calling each other youth decided to do like the Romans but couldn't it pronounce it properly so called everybody "Youtee", which became is nickname. Very few new his real name (Dennis Ahearn).
Calling people "sorry" was common around Hucknall when I as young, usually when asking a question such "you raight, sorry"?
John, I'm surprised you'd never heard the word scrob for a for a bread roll, bacon cobs were on the menu in all Notts. pit canteens.
I use to work at the next desk to a Barnsley lad in West Virginia (DH to you, Daz) and sometimes we'd play a trick on the Americans by conversing in Yorkshire and Nottingham dialects with a little bit of Derbyshire thrown in. They hadn't a clue what we were talking about. DH became my boss and if he asked me do to a job I didn't fancy I'd say "an yo cun bollocks". Nobody realized I was being disrespectful to him.
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