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Post by colly0410 on Aug 26, 2017 6:59:10 GMT -5
Hucknall used tandem winding for the downcast shafts (where the cage goes up in one shaft & down in the other at the same time) I understand Babbington & Brinsley (among others) did as well, but why? In my (probably flawed) thinking it would have been cheaper to sink one bigger shaft & bung two cages in like the upcast at Hucknall & both shafts at Moorgreen & most other pits did. Down Hucknall the two downcast shaft pit bottoms at the Deep Soft seam were linked by a passage way with an onsetters cabin off it, the Main Bright inset was only in one shaft, (No 3) you had to get out of a gate in the side of the bottom deck of the cage to access it..
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Post by John on Aug 26, 2017 9:52:48 GMT -5
Hucknall used tandem winding for the downcast shafts (where the cage goes up in one shaft & down in the other at the same time) I understand Babbington & Brinsley (among others) did as well, but why? In my (probably flawed) thinking it would have been cheaper to sink one bigger shaft & bung two cages in like the upcast at Hucknall & both shafts at Moorgreen & most other pits did. Down Hucknall the two downcast shaft pit bottoms at the Deep Soft seam were linked by a passage way with an onsetters cabin off it, the Main Bright inset was only in one shaft, (No 3) you had to get out of a gate in the side of the bottom deck of the cage to access it.. My guess is costs. After the major accident that forced Parliament to implement the second egress rule, I'd hazard a guess they sank a second shaft and used tandem headgear and one winder... Just my guess, can't see any other reasons. Winders weren't cheap back then, mind still aren't cheap today.
Hucknall No1 also had tandem headgear, which had gone when I did my basic training at the training centre located there. I have a couple of photos of it.
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Post by quimbyj1745 on Aug 27, 2017 2:12:54 GMT -5
When I went to Cadley hill in south Derbyshire in 1968 the old part of the pit was served by 3 shafts in line. Nos. 2 & 3 small dia shafts with oak headgears and no. 1 on a more modern steel headgear and bigger dia shaft. One winder house had both engines installed. Shafts 2&3 engine was vertically mounted and no 1 horizontal. All 3 shafts were upcasts, the intakes were 2 drifts into the south Derbyshire coalfield western extension.
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Post by smshogun on Aug 27, 2017 20:52:14 GMT -5
Hucknall used tandem winding for the downcast shafts (where the cage goes up in one shaft & down in the other at the same time) I understand Babbington & Brinsley (among others) did as well, but why? In my (probably flawed) thinking it would have been cheaper to sink one bigger shaft & bung two cages in like the upcast at Hucknall & both shafts at Moorgreen & most other pits did. Down Hucknall the two downcast shaft pit bottoms at the Deep Soft seam were linked by a passage way with an onsetters cabin off it, the Main Bright inset was only in one shaft, (No 3) you had to get out of a gate in the side of the bottom deck of the cage to access it.. Babbington was apparently an odd bod arrangement in which they had several other shafts from nearby pits, from what I have read about Babbington it was a cheap way to power two shafts at the same time for 3 individual collieries until they were all merged as they went deeper underground, and the history I have shows that Babington had a third shaft with its own winder.
One colliery was across the road behind the BP petrol station and was built on by Kwik Save, this was after it was used as a tip previously, and the other one was the rear of the pre fabs on Cinderhill Road where the old X ray unit was located, and it was also something to do with ventilating all three pits but history is quite scant on this.
Moorgreen had three shafts, one upcast and one downcast shaft, and a third shallow shaft which was capped and only ran to the same depth as the bottom of the adit, this third shaft was for recovery and emergencies only and due to Moorgreen being like a rabbit warren the adit was also a downcast adit. This third shaft was capped at the top and you could climb on it, and I have seen the emergency winder rigged and winding in shaft 3 in a familiarisation exercise for the emergency winder crew.
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Post by colly0410 on Aug 30, 2017 5:47:57 GMT -5
Didn't know Moorgreen had 3 shafts, I can remember 2 shafts & the downcast/intake addit/drift that went down to the Waterloo seam IIRC, looked down the drift a few times & looked up from the bottom once or twice as well, it was a bit windy. We used to practice riding that manrider belt that went from Piper inset pit bottom to Waterloo seam & wander around at bottom of the drift area, I was fascinated by the cable belt..
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Post by John on Aug 30, 2017 9:05:31 GMT -5
Moorgreen shows on the BGS site as 4 boreholes, No1 upcast shaft 185m deep, around 20m from that is the No2 shaft at 331.24m, about 240m NE of those is "No1 pit" 262.43m, to the south is another logged Moorgreen bore dated 1867 and 86.26m deep. Could the "No1 pit" be the third shaft???
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Post by smshogun on Sept 3, 2017 20:11:49 GMT -5
John, it was No 3 shaft and was a brick shaft visible at the surface and only extended about 8' above the ground, it went to the bottom of the adit and connected to it by a short roadway about 15 yards long. This shaft was visible on the surface and was capped off at the top with a concrete cap and access doors for the emergency winder to access it and at the bottom it had air doors in the short roadway, from memory they were to allow the adit to act as another means of fresh air into the mine to overcome problems with the downcast shaft being too small to allow sufficient air underground as Moorgreen was like a rabbit warren with many unused, but open roadways underground.
Colly, If you were going underground at Moorgreen and went past the shafts, you would see a raised concrete plinth which ran from the shaft to the stockyard, it was just past the shaft for manriding on your left, all materials going underground actually passed it.
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Post by colly0410 on Sept 4, 2017 8:29:22 GMT -5
I can remember the concrete plinth thing but never knew it was top of a shaft, interesting info, thanks..
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