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Post by cosmiccactus on Oct 10, 2015 15:20:37 GMT -5
Hi guy anyone out there able to help or advise me with a seemingly simple problem but one that's turning out to be hard to get my head round? It's a well known fact that in my local area ( Wakefield/ Barnsley) there are numerous coal seams close to the surface with some actually outcropping in several places. I well remember during the strike in 84 miners digging coal from a seam that out cropped near Royston or South Hiendley but try as I might I can't find this or any outcrops anywhere. I have a very deep interest in the geology of the coal measures andI'm wanting to examine a seam in detail. Anyone able to point me in the direction of any accessible coal seam outcrops in my part of the world?
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Post by John on Oct 10, 2015 15:28:31 GMT -5
Hi guy anyone out there able to help or advise me with a seemingly simple problem but one that's turning out to be hard to get my head round? It's a well known fact that in my local area ( Wakefield/ Barnsley) there are numerous coal seams close to the surface with some actually outcropping in several places. I well remember during the strike in 84 miners digging coal from a seam that out cropped near Royston or South Hiendley but try as I might I can't find this or any outcrops anywhere. I have a very deep interest in the geology of the coal measures andI'm wanting to examine a seam in detail. Anyone able to point me in the direction of any accessible coal seam outcrops in my part of the world? |
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Post by dazbt on Oct 10, 2015 16:57:02 GMT -5
Hi guy anyone out there able to help or advise me with a seemingly simple problem but one that's turning out to be hard to get my head round? It's a well known fact that in my local area ( Wakefield/ Barnsley) there are numerous coal seams close to the surface with some actually outcropping in several places. I well remember during the strike in 84 miners digging coal from a seam that out cropped near Royston or South Hiendley but try as I might I can't find this or any outcrops anywhere. I have a very deep interest in the geology of the coal measures andI'm wanting to examine a seam in detail. Anyone able to point me in the direction of any accessible coal seam outcrops in my part of the world? As you say there are "numerous" sites of coal seam outcrops around that area, |
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Post by cosmiccactus on Oct 11, 2015 12:02:02 GMT -5
I'm gobb smacked I live in havercroft and had no idea there was a quarry in Royston. I have driven down that road so many times and never seen it. I know where Moncton pit is/ used to be, it's across the road from the cock works but I'm confused as to the quarry location. I know about the coal seam in the old Royston canal and the two abandoned quarries there. I've tried many times to locate the seams in the quarries but they're badly overgrown. The foot bath beside the canal has massive sandstones with cross bedding and ripple marks but because it too is over grown im not sure where to start looking( IE should I look towards the top of the cutting or the bottom ) as for the guys that were killed, it doesn't surprise me. When I saw the guys digging the coal out during the strike they had undercut the sandstone to a depth of at least six feet and none of the rock above was supported. I'm amazed there were not that many accidents.. As for the outcrop near the old haigh colliery at Wooly that's is no where to be seen and none of the locals seem to know about it lol
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Post by John on Oct 11, 2015 13:18:14 GMT -5
I'm gobb smacked I live in havercroft and had no idea there was a quarry in Royston. I have driven down that road so many times and never seen it. I know where Moncton pit is/ used to be, it's across the road from the cock works but I'm confused as to the quarry location. I know about the coal seam in the old Royston canal and the two abandoned quarries there. I've tried many times to locate the seams in the quarries but they're badly overgrown. The foot bath beside the canal has massive sandstones with cross bedding and ripple marks but because it too is over grown im not sure where to start looking( IE should I look towards the top of the cutting or the bottom ) as for the guys that were killed, it doesn't surprise me. When I saw the guys digging the coal out during the strike they had undercut the sandstone to a depth of at least six feet and none of the rock above was supported. I'm amazed there were not that many accidents.. As for the outcrop near the old haigh colliery at Wooly that's is no where to be seen and none of the locals seem to know about it lol
Luckily, when it came nobody was hurt and none of the supports were damaged, got a bit dusty for a short time though..
If the sandstone was as hard as that, I doubt they'd need support for short headings driven into the "crop" BUT, anything like the Bunter sandstone of Nottinghamshire, it would be a different tale, and foolish not to set some timber. |
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Post by dazbt on Oct 11, 2015 14:05:51 GMT -5
Monkton Colliery shafts were on the same side as the coke works, the canteen, baths and lamp room were on the opposite side of the road. Royston Drift was located on the other side of the road to Monkton shafts but used the old Monckton baths and canteen.
On the same side as the coke works on the Havercroft side there is a sheer face excavated immediately before the first house after passing the coke works, the area was used as a stocking compound, easily viewed from the road the coal seam can be clearly seen laid in the face at an angle of around 20 degs (at a guess) and actually reaches the surface at that point.
The coal outcrop at Haigh is on the north side of Haigh Lane some few hundred yards above the terraced row, there is a wooded area with two cart track entrances, ten yards into the wood from the bottom track there is sudden rise of ground, the seam (actually two seams with a middle muck band) is at the base of this rise and a bricked entrance to the old workings was found leading from the roadside at roughly right angles to it and approximately 15 yards above the bottom track. view map link showing a Colliery in the rough area;
www.visionofbritain.org.uk/maps/;jsessionid=33AAB473B5CA014B9F4B21212AF4C21B?layer=europe&xMin=3262651.34439&yMin=3028628.49988&xMax=3265451.34439&yMax=3031428.49988
This outcrop was worked extensively during the 84 strike, I can personally assure you of that, and any locals denying that fact, are either newcomers to the district or lied to you for whatever reasons.
The old Royston outcrop is immediately above the footpath from the road down to the canal path on the north side and must surely be accessible with a reasonable amount of effort. Take a proper look at the Monkton site.
There are other outcrops around you, I suggest that you ask around locally, look around the area immediately adjacent to the road running alongside the reservoir from Ryhill towards The Anglers the fields are pockmarked with strike workings.
Good luck.
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Post by Wheldale on Oct 11, 2015 15:09:34 GMT -5
If you go onto the coal authority interactive map viewer there is a box you can tick to view outcrops on the map. Only problem with the map is that you can't really zoom in that much. But there might just be enough detail for you to find the location of the outcrops.
Another thing that might be of help is the BGS borehole scan viewer. You can view thousands of borehole logs and some in the area you are interested in might have some information that is useful?
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Post by dazbt on Oct 13, 2015 5:36:20 GMT -5
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Post by merlin on Apr 8, 2016 11:51:47 GMT -5
a few years ago my daughter who lives in staincross nr Barnsley went t see a house to by it looking through the bedroom window at next doors garden their was a seam of coal in the garden the house was off Huddersfield road
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Post by Clive on Apr 8, 2016 14:54:40 GMT -5
a few years ago my daughter who lives in staincross nr Barnsley went t see a house to by it looking through the bedroom window at next doors garden their was a seam of coal in the garden the house was off Huddersfield road Buy the property. Build a hen pen. Buy a pickup and some hundred weight bags. Tell no one and get amongst it..but thsts just what I would do |
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Post by dazbt on Apr 9, 2016 2:59:27 GMT -5
a few years ago my daughter who lives in staincross nr Barnsley went t see a house to by it looking through the bedroom window at next doors garden their was a seam of coal in the garden the house was off Huddersfield road Sounds like your daughter didn't buy the house merlin which was probably a good thing, if you can see coal then there's little doubt that someone else has seen it before you and in that particular case I know for a fact that the area has been extensively mined over the centuries, from Willowbank westwards under Huddersfield Road the area is riddled with workings from almost the town centre and well past the site of Redbrook Colliery. Despite what we are told about subsidence not being a problem after the magical number of 25years (?) I know that two houses on Huddersfield Road at the top of Woodstock Road are still subject to on-going subsidence damage. The site of Hopwood Colliery is now in the middle of Hopwood Street just off Huddersfield Road almost in the town centre. Having said all that Staincross on the opposite side of the Dearne Valley has had its share of old coal mine workings over the years, there's not very much shallow coal in the Barnsley area that hasn't already been pillaged, except in my back garden and I'm keeping that a secret waiting for a market improvement ........ as if !  |
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