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Post by John on Feb 2, 2014 13:29:36 GMT -5
Cotgrave. Kellingley. Selby complex. Rothes?? Point of Ayr.?? Calverton....Strictly speaking, but the NCB sunk the second shaft and developed it. Bevorcotes.
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Post by bulwellbrian on Feb 2, 2014 14:08:53 GMT -5
Bettws Cynhydre Lea Hall Daw Mill High Moor Longannet Complex
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Post by bulwellbrian on Feb 2, 2014 14:17:21 GMT -5
Not Point of Ayr, it was owned by the Point of Ayr Collieries Ltd pre 1947.
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Post by tygwyn on Feb 2, 2014 14:49:36 GMT -5
Not Point of Ayr, it was owned by the Point of Ayr Collieries Ltd pre 1947. But the NCB did sink another shaft and drive a new drift .
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 2, 2014 14:58:06 GMT -5
Royston drift Kinsley Drift Riddings drift? Parkside Monktohall
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Post by tygwyn on Feb 2, 2014 14:59:12 GMT -5
Abernant, Treforgan, 2 Blaenants,one either side of the river, Cynheidre, Blaentillery/Robens Folly, Bettws, Cwmgwili, Lyndsay, Trelewis, Pentreclwydau North, Carway Fawr, Blaengwrach Drift.
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Post by andyexplorer on Feb 3, 2014 4:38:20 GMT -5
Agecroft (re developed after it had closed in 1932)
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Post by dazbt on Feb 3, 2014 5:41:19 GMT -5
if the list includes drifts and shafts sunk within existing units;
West Drift, Chopwell Colliery 1960 NCB Seafield 1964 NCB Cowley Drift 1947 NCB Clockburn Drift, Winlaton Mill 1952 (Coaling drift only)NCB Bradley Drift, NCB Busty Drift, 1947 NCB (part of Arnghyll) Hawthorn Combined Mine, Murton 1960 NCB Kiveton Park, Jubilee Drift 1977 NCB High Marley Hill Drift, NCB Grimethorpe South Side Drift NCB
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Post by spanker on Feb 3, 2014 7:11:38 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken there were 2 more surface drifts in North East Derbyshire Shirebrook colliery ( Jubilee drift ) and surface drift at Arkwright colliery.
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Post by garryo on Feb 3, 2014 10:37:50 GMT -5
Other new collieries and drifts and also new main shafts included
Rothes Fife mentioned by Dabzt
Seafield Fife as above
Kinneal new colliery on old site Bilston Glen Midlothian
Killoch Ayrshire
Sorn New drift Ayshire
Glenogle new drift Disater only lasted short time
Glen Taggart drift
New shafts at Bedlay,Cardowan,Barony,Bowhill,etc also new tower winders at Kames and Douglas
Minevey? New drift Ayrshire and other small drifts
New shafts at Bates, Weetslade and Rising Sun Nothumberland plus Havannah and Brenkley drifts plus other small drifts
New shafts at Westoe and Wearmouth and Hawthorn shaft for combine mine in Durham
Kellingley Yorks, Parkside Lancs,Bevercotes and Cotgrave Notts.Numerous new shafts at existing colls in Yorks including Brodsworth, Manton,Houghton Main,
New drifts at Fenhall, Chopwell East Towneley,Lanchester Towneley, Eden surface drift and Clockburn for Marley Hill in Durham
New tower winders at Westoe, Wearmouth,Ryhope and Dawdon in Durham
Probaly many many more
Regards
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Post by John on Feb 3, 2014 12:32:37 GMT -5
Hucknall Colliery had a couple of new shafts sunk during the NCB years, when I was doing my first year tech just down the road from Hucknall, they were carrying out a multi million pound upgrade, new concrete towers, deepening a couple of the shafts...Not sure when they sank shaft/s, late 6o's early70's . Steve should be able to answer that question, and I think there were seven shafts at Hucknall, all in the same pit yard.
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Post by bulwellbrian on Feb 3, 2014 12:58:17 GMT -5
Hucknall Colliery had a couple of new shafts sunk during the NCB years, when I was doing my first year tech just down the road from Hucknall, they were carrying out a multi million pound upgrade, new concrete towers, deepening a couple of the shafts...Not sure when they sank shaft/s, late 6o's early70's . Steve should be able to answer that question, and I think there were seven shafts at Hucknall, all in the same pit yard. The new shaft at Hucknall was at the No.2 colliery and was sunk in the late 1950's early 1960's. It was called No.5 shaft. I think shafts No.1 & 2 were at Hucknall 1 Colliery and shafts 3 & 4 at Hucknall No.2 Colliery, these were deepened at the same tine as No.5 was sunk. Shaft No.2 at Hucknall 1 was deepened and became Babbington No.7 shaft.
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Post by John on Feb 3, 2014 13:34:17 GMT -5
When I did my U/G training at Hucknall No1, then the training centre for No6 Area, there was only one shaft, the other had been filled and capped. I don't know the number of the open shaft, but it served two purposes back then, leakage ventilation, to ventilate the training mine, via No2 colliery, and was also an emergency egress for No2 pit, there was a rope hauled manrider between the two mines. At that time, there was no connection between Babbington and No1 Colliery, that was around 1964. The shaft must have been deepened after the training centre was closed and moved to Moorgreen.
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Post by andyexplorer on Feb 3, 2014 13:59:46 GMT -5
Just a thought but when was the last shaft sinking in the UK ?
because in a couple of decades time that will be another skill lost forever to this country
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Post by John on Feb 3, 2014 14:11:14 GMT -5
Just a thought but when was the last shaft sinking in the UK ? because in a couple of decades time that will be another skill lost forever to this country Probably the collieries in the Selby complex.
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 3, 2014 14:12:49 GMT -5
I would think Asfordby was the last mine to be sunk in the UK. I know Harworth had a shaft deepend in the late 80's or early 90's. If we require anymore shaft sinking in the UK I'd think a South African company would be brought in such as Cementation, afterall they are experts on the Gold mines.
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Post by John on Feb 3, 2014 14:23:07 GMT -5
I would think Asfordby was the last mine to be sunk in the UK. I know Harworth had a shaft deepend in the late 80's or early 90's. If we require anymore shaft sinking in the UK I'd think a South African company would be brought in such as Cementation, afterall they are experts on the Gold mines. There's a large German tunneler/shaft sinker too.
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Post by John on Feb 3, 2014 14:30:06 GMT -5
Talking about sinking, ICI and their SA partner, sank the Boulby Mine with a company formed by both partners, MCC, Mining Construction Consortium. One shaft was sunk by South Africans and the other by locals employed by Cleveland Potash Limited, most of those were retained to work on the mine afterwards, the South Africans returned home after their shaft was finished. The "Sinking Captains" were both South Africans..
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Post by colly0410 on Feb 3, 2014 16:29:48 GMT -5
Hucknall Colliery had a couple of new shafts sunk during the NCB years, when I was doing my first year tech just down the road from Hucknall, they were carrying out a multi million pound upgrade, new concrete towers, deepening a couple of the shafts...Not sure when they sank shaft/s, late 6o's early70's . Steve should be able to answer that question, and I think there were seven shafts at Hucknall, all in the same pit yard. When I started at Hucknal no 2 pit in 1968 there were three shafts (3,4,&5) 3&4 were downcast & went to the deep soft, (shaft 4 had recently been deepened) 5 was upcast & went to deep hard. In shaft 3 there was an inset for the main bright seam, it was in the side of the shaft & you got out of a gate in the side of the cage to access it, you had to walk over a loading platform that seemed to float in mid air, GULP. No 4 shaft had been deepened to deep soft & one weekend they installed a cage & it became part of the tandem winder. Number 4 shaft had about 4 or 5 disused insets in it & the roadways seamed to go for a long way in off them, whether anyone ever went into them to inspect them I don't know. Number 5 was a skip shaft with a cage on top of one of them,I rode that a few times in hols shutdown when 3&4 were out of commission, only so many blokes allowed UG at a time. There was a spillage bunker at the deep hard level that fed onto a belt that want up a short drift to deep soft pit bottom bunker, pit bottom deputy took me down the drift a few times. Down in deep soft pit bottom there were intakes that used to be returns, & returns that used to be intakes.
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Post by John on Feb 3, 2014 17:15:32 GMT -5
I was getting mixed up with the deepening of shafts and reorganization then, I know a lot was going on at Hucknall in the 60's.
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Post by garryo on Feb 4, 2014 8:25:13 GMT -5
I think Wheldale is correct, the last colliery being sunk was Asforby, some other contenders around about the era would be Maltby No3, Selby shafts esp Whitemoor, and also Castlebridge part of the Longannet project.
Mentioning the Longannet project just before it flooded it was going for substantial reserves south of the River Forth in the Hirst coal seam. The deeper seams in the area below the Hirst seam were supposed to be worked by a new colliery called Airth. Two shafts were planned each circa 3000ft deep to work the Bannock Burn Main coking coal seam for the then Scottish steel industry. Two shafts were started then after establishing the collars the sinkings were abandoned (to be sunk at a later date!) owing to cost overuns at other major projects in Scotland. The shaft site is (was) just to the south of the Kincardine Bridge over the Forth.
Apart from Longannet the Hirst seam was worked by Polmaise which had a new shaft with tower mount winders and the new drift at Manor Powis near Alloa. Manor Powis also had a new shaft to the lower seams again with tower winder.
I think it was a toss up between Yorkshire- Notts and Scottish Divisions as to who had the most friction winders both tower mount and ground mount
PS Polmaise was one of the most militant pits in the Division before the strike. But to keep the site CLEAN we shouldn't get into politics like some sites where some of the replies can get personal
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 4, 2014 10:16:12 GMT -5
I had forgot about the 3rd shaft at Maltby. Sinking for that will have finished in the late 80's as the first face from that shaft started in April 92. I think North Selby was the last of the shafts to be finished in the Selby complex, North Selby started coaling in 1990.
I've read a few articles about Longannet being re-opened. I don't know if the shafts have been filled or not but every now and again there is talk of de-watering the mine. However I believe the SNP is looking at green energy so might not be interested in coal?
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Post by colly0410 on Feb 4, 2014 10:37:36 GMT -5
Moorgreen had a surface to waterloo seam drift, don't know when it was driven though, it had a cable belt & materials also went down it. On my first day at training centre they let us look down it as they showed us round the pit top, second day we were loading tubs to be sent down it, it thundered & we got soaked. The blokes got to waterloo seam via an inset at piper level in upcast shaft & a manriding belt up a drift, they taught us trainees how to ride belts using that..
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 4, 2014 12:54:50 GMT -5
I think Wheldale is correct, the last colliery being sunk was Asforby, some other contenders around about the era would be Maltby No3, Selby shafts esp Whitemoor, and also Castlebridge part of the Longannet project. Mentioning the Longannet project just before it flooded it was going for substantial reserves south of the River Forth in the Hirst coal seam. The deeper seams in the area below the Hirst seam were supposed to be worked by a new colliery called Airth. Two shafts were planned each circa 3000ft deep to work the Bannock Burn Main coking coal seam for the then Scottish steel industry. Two shafts were started then after establishing the collars the sinkings were abandoned (to be sunk at a later date!) owing to cost overuns at other major projects in Scotland. The shaft site is (was) just to the south of the Kincardine Bridge over the Forth. Apart from Longannet the Hirst seam was worked by Polmaise which had a new shaft with tower mount winders and the new drift at Manor Powis near Alloa. Manor Powis also had a new shaft to the lower seams again with tower winder. I think it was a toss up between Yorkshire- Notts and Scottish Divisions as to who had the most friction winders both tower mount and ground mount PS Polmaise was one of the most militant pits in the Division before the strike. But to keep the site CLEAN we shouldn't get into politics like some sites where some of the replies can get personal Slightly off topic but here is a link to the report into the flooding of Langannet. www.hse.gov.uk/mining/longannet.pdf
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Post by John on Feb 5, 2014 17:39:17 GMT -5
A lot of water!!
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Post by garryo on Feb 9, 2014 10:16:10 GMT -5
Just had a quick think and beleive that these are all the new pits sunk not including drifts or new shafts at existing pits
Scotland Rothes, Bilston Glen, Seafield, Killoch, Monkton Hall, Kinneal new pit old site, and Longannet combine inc Castlebridge Shaft
Northumberland None
Durham None Hawthorn was new shaft for Murton,Elemore and Eppleton
Yorkshire Selby Complex 5 mines plus main coal drift, Kellingley
Notts Bevercotes Cotgrave and Calverton originaly air shaft then separate mine
Derbyshire None
Lancashire Parkside, Agecroft new colliery old site
Staffordshire Leahall, Hem Heath new colliery originally part of Stafford colliery
Warwickshire Daw Mill originally extention to Dexter which in turn extn to Kingsbury
Leicester Asfordby
Wales Abernant, Cynheidre, Plenty new drifts example Betws, Cwmgili etc
Cumbria Solway being developed when NCB took over
Kent None
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Post by smshogun on Feb 6, 2016 21:58:36 GMT -5
John, British workers would sink any new shafts as we are currently sitting on a number of unreleased inventions which will remain secret as the patent office is full of industrial spies, how do you think these big corporations and Chinese keep getting hold of all our new inventions. All I can say about these new systems are that they are the fastest method of sinking shafts from 7-12 metres diameter and self line as they cut, no men are needed in the shaft; and they even install services such as water pipes, cables, and even telephone and electronics systems.
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Post by quimbyj1745 on Feb 8, 2016 14:34:50 GMT -5
cadley hill, south Derbyshire 2 new drifts 2,400 m to the western extension of the south Derbyshire coalfield. driven in 1950,s
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Post by John on Feb 8, 2016 16:30:21 GMT -5
John, British workers would sink any new shafts as we are currently sitting on a number of unreleased inventions which will remain secret as the patent office is full of industrial spies, how do you think these big corporations and Chinese keep getting hold of all our new inventions. All I can say about these new systems are that they are the fastest method of sinking shafts from 7-12 metres diameter and self line as they cut, no men are needed in the shaft; and they even install services such as water pipes, cables, and even telephone and electronics systems. I'm pretty sure the South Africans are using shaft sinking machines now, much like the tunnel boring machines, but hanging from a rope.
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Post by smshogun on Feb 8, 2016 22:23:38 GMT -5
These don't hang from a rope.
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