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Post by John on Aug 23, 2007 9:50:19 GMT -5
It's amazing what you can find when your looking for other things! __________________________________________________ Robert Murray insists that his company did not change the mining plan at Crandall Canyon after purchasing a joint interest in the mine last August. But documents obtained by The Salt Lake Tribune clearly contradict Murray's assertion, and show that Murray's company sought and received approval from federal regulators to make a significant, and, experts say, risky change to the mining strategy. Records of the Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA) show that, after Murray acquired a 50 percent ownership in the mine on Aug. 9, 2006, his company repeatedly petitioned the agency to allow coal to be extracted from the north and south barriers.... Work in the north barrier progressed until March, when the mine suffered a major "bump" - a jolt in the mine caused by the pressure of the mountain bearing down, often causing the roof to fall in, floors to heave or coal to explode from the support pillars. That incident still doesn't show up in MSHA's publicly available database. The March bump damaged tunnels over a span of more than 700 feet, and prompted mine operators to abandon their retreat mining in the northern barrier. Instead, they asked MSHA for permission to mine the south barrier... ____________________________________________________ I found that at this URL.. minesafetywatch.blogspot.com/Just wait until the lawyers have completed "discovery" and proceed with the class action lawsuit, I'd say Mr Murray will be cited personally in this case. |
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Post by John on Aug 23, 2007 10:01:43 GMT -5
I like the way Bob Murray calls the mountain evil! If his company had taken notice of the tell tale signs occuring, maybe, just maybe, there would still be nine lost men still alive, and the employees would all still be cutting coal in another section of the mine safely.
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Post by dazbt on Jul 22, 2008 4:58:39 GMT -5
MSHA due to release details of their final report on the Crandall Disaster later this week. They will publish it on their own web site at; www.msha.gov. I wonder if this will point the finger(s) as hard as the preliminary report did ...... |
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Post by John on Jul 22, 2008 6:44:15 GMT -5
MSHA due to release details of their final report on the Crandall Disaster later this week. They will publish it on their own web site at; www.msha.gov. I wonder if this will point the finger(s) as hard as the preliminary report did ...... I doubt it very much Daz, they are out to cover their asses! Remember Ted Kennedy realy hammered them hard in his Senate inquirery. He also set the department of justice to see if their was a case for criminal proceedings against any member of MSHA and Murray. I often wonder how the mining industry over here would handle an Inspectorate like the one we had in the UK and New South Wales! We used to run around like blue arsed flies for 24 hours before a visit and not knowing where the Inspector would be going, everything was checked, just in case! |
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Post by Mick on Jul 22, 2008 12:58:25 GMT -5
We had a undermanager at Wheldale that visited the US in the 80s and went down afew pits.
When he came back he told us wot they were doing and said if he asked us to do the same
he new wot tha answer would be f..... off.
He saw men working on the face side without a single prop set also cutting out for 4 bar in the gate without a stick set to cover them.
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Post by John on Jul 22, 2008 13:12:04 GMT -5
We had a undermanager at Wheldale that visited the US in the 80s and went down afew pits. When he came back he told us wot they were doing and said if he asked us to do the same he new wot tha answer would be f..... off. He saw men working on the face side without a single prop set also cutting out for 4 bar in the gate without a stick set to cover them. We were spoilt Mick! I recall the old bloke who took us for first year legislation, a retired colliery manager with overseas experience. He was instructing us that we should never work in a place we considered unsafe until it was made safe and declared safe by a Deputy or higher official. He also told us the M&Q Act could hold a Manager, if he attempted to coerce us into working in an unsafe place and got killed, could be arrested, charged and tried for un premeditated murder! We have to be thankful that the Manager would be the first to get "hanged" after an accident, metaphorically speaking. He is totally responsible for everyone working at his mine, and there is no way he could or can shirk that responsibility. |
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Post by John on Jul 23, 2008 6:25:28 GMT -5
Well, nothing yet Daz!
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Post by dazbt on Jul 23, 2008 7:12:58 GMT -5
Due out tomorrow J. (Thursday) |
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Post by dazbt on Jul 23, 2008 7:16:52 GMT -5
We had a undermanager at Wheldale that visited the US in the 80s and went down afew pits. When he came back he told us wot they were doing and said if he asked us to do the same he new wot tha answer would be f..... off. He saw men working on the face side without a single prop set also cutting out for 4 bar in the gate without a stick set to cover them. We were spoilt Mick! I recall the old bloke who took us for first year legislation, a retired colliery manager with overseas experience. He was instructing us that we should never work in a place we considered unsafe until it was made safe and declared safe by a Deputy or higher official. He also told us the M&Q Act could hold a Manager, if he attempted to coerce us into working in an unsafe place and got killed, could be arrested, charged and tried for un premeditated murder! We have to be thankful that the Manager would be the first to get "hanged" after an accident, metaphorically speaking. He is totally responsible for everyone working at his mine, and there is no way he could or can shirk that responsibility. I just can't believe that miners would ever work under unsupported ground  |
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Post by John on Jul 23, 2008 8:19:37 GMT -5
We were spoilt Mick! I recall the old bloke who took us for first year legislation, a retired colliery manager with overseas experience. He was instructing us that we should never work in a place we considered unsafe until it was made safe and declared safe by a Deputy or higher official. He also told us the M&Q Act could hold a Manager, if he attempted to coerce us into working in an unsafe place and got killed, could be arrested, charged and tried for un premeditated murder! We have to be thankful that the Manager would be the first to get "hanged" after an accident, metaphorically speaking. He is totally responsible for everyone working at his mine, and there is no way he could or can shirk that responsibility. I just can't believe that miners would ever work under unsupported ground Kind of reminds me of crawling down the faceside before they pushed over. BUT, we'd have got our rear end kicked if the Manager had seen us. |
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Post by Mick on Jul 23, 2008 14:24:20 GMT -5
We used to sprag AFC down on last shift before holidays,but thats the only time
you would get us on the face side without supports set.
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