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Post by dazbt on May 26, 2011 0:31:50 GMT -5
Second part of a series repeated today at 12pm and tomorrow (Friday 27th May) at 10.0pm. shown on UK SKY Discovery 520. Reality show of six Oregon guys who have decided to try their hand at gold mining in Alaska, not underground only the 'Fred Flintstone' scratting on the surface type of thing. If you watched any of the WV Coal series and found those guys Cavalier then just watch these lads from Oregon perform ........ Health and Safety, what Health and Safety? Oops!! spelling of 'Oregan' corrected 26-05, sorry, wouldn't want to offend or upset anybody  |
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Post by Wheldale on May 26, 2011 2:10:29 GMT -5
I saw the first one, found it very funny! Especially when the lad swung the back hoe around onto his own car!!
Would you ever consider doing what those guys intend to do?
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Post by dazbt on May 26, 2011 2:25:49 GMT -5
I saw the first one, found it very funny! Especially when the lad swung the back hoe around onto his own car!! Would you ever consider doing what those guys intend to do? The 'old fellah' manages to repeat that, bruising his own motor. It's worth watching the second episode just to watch the 'nutjack' firing up a petrol chain saw. |
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Post by John on May 26, 2011 13:05:08 GMT -5
How did he start the chainsaw Daz?? I tend to "drop start" them, the exception is my larger saw, compression is too high for drop starting.
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Post by dazbt on May 27, 2011 2:16:05 GMT -5
How did he start the chainsaw Daz?? I tend to "drop start" them, the exception is my larger saw, compression is too high for drop starting. I reckon he is working off the old 'tug, chuck and waft it around' method, but seemed to have little faith in it firing up ......... until it did and surprised him. |
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Post by John on May 27, 2011 7:42:18 GMT -5
Not heard of that method, sounds a bit scary....  |
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Post by dazbt on May 27, 2011 10:49:50 GMT -5
Not heard of that method, sounds a bit scary.... You might know the method by its colloquial name John; 'YSA.' ................... YANK SWING and APUTATE ! |
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Post by John on May 27, 2011 11:08:56 GMT -5
Not heard of that method, sounds a bit scary.... You might know the method by its colloquial name John; 'YSA.' ................... YANK SWING and APUTATE ! Didn't they apply the chain brake before starting their saw?  Or were they so complacent as to remove that safety feature.. I recall when we lived down under, a farmer planted his chain saw into his own head.. His Daughter was a nurse and there was nothing she could do for him. Although he'd had years of experience he just wasn't prepared for the saw kicking back when the tip snagged on something. Usually if you're holding it right, your left hand will knock the chain brake on, stalling the machine, but in his case it failed. Like AFC's, when they get you, they don't stop and say sorry!! |
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Post by dazbt on May 27, 2011 12:50:06 GMT -5
I'm fairly sure the interlocked safety brake would have been working on the Oregon lad's saw, although having said that I have two chain saws, one an electric drive and the other a small Makita petrol, the electric one stops dead when the brake is applied, the Makita drops drive but continues to rotate the chain, whilst the slightest of pressure stops it it's still enough to give a nasty bite, I'm just too bone idle to look at it whilst ever it still works OK. otherwise ................ nearly as dangerous as sawing through a shearer haulage chain in tension, or breaking a panzer chain against a sprag and power.
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Post by John on May 27, 2011 13:51:00 GMT -5
My main saw is the 20 inch bar Husqvarna, nasty machine, but the brake does stop dead with the safety brake. as you say, if it did kick back, even with a stopped chain, would still inflict some nasty injuries.
I've had chain saws now for over 25 years and have always treated them with respect.
Best one I had was a Stihl farmboss that lasted around 15 years, electronic ignition unit gave out, couldn't get a replacement anywhere. That saw would be left with old fuel all summer, months later she'd start up sometimes first pull, but always on the second pull. Never had a saw as good as that. It's replacement was a Stihl with 20 inch bar, piece of garbage. It was replaced by the Husqy, but when I was ill a few years back, I wasn't strong enough to lift it, let alone start it. Too much for the missus to start, so she bought a Sears Craftsman with easy start, that got her through until I was strong enough once more. I still use that machine a lot sizing firewood, the Husqy is for cutting up trees.
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Post by dazbt on May 27, 2011 14:18:50 GMT -5
My main saw is the 20 inch bar Husqvarna, nasty machine, but the brake does stop dead with the safety brake. as you say, if it did kick back, even with a stopped chain, would still inflict some nasty injuries. I've had chain saws now for over 25 years and have always treated them with respect. Best one I had was a Stihl farmboss that lasted around 15 years, electronic ignition unit gave out, couldn't get a replacement anywhere. That saw would be left with old fuel all summer, months later she'd start up sometimes first pull, but always on the second pull. Never had a saw as good as that. It's replacement was a Stihl with 20 inch bar, piece of garbage. It was replaced by the Husqy, but when I was ill a few years back, I wasn't strong enough to lift it, let alone start it. Too much for the missus to start, so she bought a Sears Craftsman with easy start, that got her through until I was strong enough once more. I still use that machine a lot sizing firewood, the Husqy is for cutting up trees. I know what you mean John, when I was younger and stronger I used to fell timber with a hand held AB16 precut with a 6' jib and powered with a Cummins V12, but after the first heart attack I had to settle for the Makita with a 16" bar. |
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Post by shropshirebloke on May 27, 2011 15:46:30 GMT -5
I know what you mean John, when I was younger and stronger I used to fell timber with a hand held AB16 precut with a 6' jib and powered with a Cummins V12 Ahhh, what they call a "lady's chainsaw" round our way Daz ;D To be honest, although I use some pretty scary machines every day, chainsaws scare the carp out of me and I stick with handsaws for cutting logs  |
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Post by John on May 27, 2011 17:32:29 GMT -5
My main saw is the 20 inch bar Husqvarna, nasty machine, but the brake does stop dead with the safety brake. as you say, if it did kick back, even with a stopped chain, would still inflict some nasty injuries. I've had chain saws now for over 25 years and have always treated them with respect. Best one I had was a Stihl farmboss that lasted around 15 years, electronic ignition unit gave out, couldn't get a replacement anywhere. That saw would be left with old fuel all summer, months later she'd start up sometimes first pull, but always on the second pull. Never had a saw as good as that. It's replacement was a Stihl with 20 inch bar, piece of garbage. It was replaced by the Husqy, but when I was ill a few years back, I wasn't strong enough to lift it, let alone start it. Too much for the missus to start, so she bought a Sears Craftsman with easy start, that got her through until I was strong enough once more. I still use that machine a lot sizing firewood, the Husqy is for cutting up trees. I know what you mean John, when I was younger and stronger I used to fell timber with a hand held AB16 precut with a 6' jib and powered with a Cummins V12, but after the first heart attack I had to settle for the Makita with a 16" bar. A 20 inch bar is a baby Daz at side of the pro's saws, for big tree's they use "two person" chainsaws, I have no idea what HP they are, but from what I'm told, one has to be strong to lift those beasts. Normal bar lengths for pro loggers are about 26 inch. |
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Post by John on May 27, 2011 17:40:13 GMT -5
I know what you mean John, when I was younger and stronger I used to fell timber with a hand held AB16 precut with a 6' jib and powered with a Cummins V12 Ahhh, what they call a "lady's chainsaw" round our way Daz ;D To be honest, although I use some pretty scary machines every day, chainsaws scare the carp out of me and I stick with handsaws for cutting logs I used to be nervous as hell with them years back, using them often takes the fear out of them, BUT, don't get me wrong, I treat them with respect, if one doesn't, expect to get bitten by them. There's no getting away from it, complacency + serious injury or even death with chainsaws. I've had one chain break on me, luckily it fouled up and I didn't get hurt. I always wear boots with steel toe caps when using them, leather gloves and hearing protection. I should wear a helmet and chaps. I was once cutting saplings out and my saw chain oiler case bolts worked loose. The damned thing dropped all the oil down my overall leg. Now that stuff is uncomfortable, you can only guess what oil the consistency of snot feels like through clothing!!! ;D |
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Post by Wheldale on Jun 6, 2011 2:25:34 GMT -5
Just watched the 3rd installment of the program. Dorsey the lad with the chainsaw is a right cowboy!! Mind you the old fella driving the back hoe seems just as bad!!
Just had a thought, anyone fancy clubbing together and going gold mining in Alaska? It looks really easy! lol
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Post by dazbt on Jun 6, 2011 3:37:44 GMT -5
Just watched the 3rd installment of the program. Dorsey the lad with the chainsaw is a right cowboy!! Mind you the old fella driving the back hoe seems just as bad!! Just had a thought, anyone fancy clubbing together and going gold mining in Alaska? It looks really easy! lol I'll mek one, but what about a camping trip to Ferrybridge Power Station instead, sifting through the thousands of tons of flyash, apart from the chance of Gold there's Vanadium and Uranium (U308) just waiting to be plucked out of it. An old metal dustbin a camping gas stove and an old kitchen sieve, a few tins of beans and few bottles of Newkie Brown and we could be millionaires in a couple of weeks. |
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Post by John on Jun 6, 2011 7:43:35 GMT -5
I was looking at an online site with the analysis of minerals in coal, mercury as we found out some time back, cadmium and dozens of other metals which aren't particularly healthy to we humans. It also appears that power stations only pollute the sky with minute traces of mercury, far less than one volcano erupting, that is combined powers stations. Makes me wonder what we did for facts before the internet... ;D ;D ;D Probably didn't worry half as much, I wonder how much mercury I consumed during those dark smoggy evenings in the early 60's when all the buses had stopped running and road traffic was impossible.... |
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Post by dazbt on May 13, 2012 4:52:43 GMT -5
They're back !!
New series started on SKY UK, first episode, good news bad news
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Post by dazbt on Nov 14, 2012 15:35:22 GMT -5
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Post by miningstudent on Sept 12, 2019 21:38:23 GMT -5
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Or were they so complacent as to remove that safety feature..
enjoy!