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Post by dazbt on Jul 2, 2010 16:51:03 GMT -5
How many miners were killed whilst working in UK coalmines during the WW11 years, September 1939 to September 1945? I have found some fatality figures for the three individual years, 1939, 1941 and 1942 but can’t find the other three years stats. The figures I have would suggest the probability that more than 5,000 coal miners died as a direct result of accidents at work during this period ………. I’m looking for confirmation references.
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Post by John on Jul 3, 2010 10:08:15 GMT -5
Not really thought about it much Daz. One source, try Hansard, politicians ask questions, I did find a couple regarding a couple of fatalities at Clifton Colliery during the war years.
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Post by dazbt on Jul 16, 2010 5:07:41 GMT -5
How many miners were killed whilst working in UK coalmines during the WW11 years, September 1939 to September 1945? I have found some fatality figures for the three individual years, 1939, 1941 and 1942 but can’t find the other three years stats. The figures I have would suggest the probability that more than 5,000 coal miners died as a direct result of accidents at work during this period ………. I’m looking for confirmation references. Should anyone here be interested; Courtesy of The UK National Coal Mining Museum librarian I now have actual fatality numbers as recorded in the HMI report system 1939:783 1940:923 1941:925 1942:877 1943:713 1944:623 1945:550 a total of 5,394 deaths in coal mines including both underground and surface fatalities. The reason I decided to look these figures up was based on a recent conversation discussing our 'late' Prime Minister's official and public recognition of Sheffield's Women of Steel war effort. The conversation got around to fact that medals, badges, public acclaim and specific acceptance of the various non combatant groups whose occupational efforts were considered extraordinary. The Bevin Boys medal and acceptance that they should be allowed to march alongside war veterans in Remembrance Parades, even the ladies of The Land Army were recognised and honoured with a medal ........... but no mention of the coal miners who were 'trapped' in the position of essential work orders and as such were unable to choose whether or not they wanted to volunteer for military service or any other alternative occupation for that matter. The chances were that at that time coal mining was often as dangerous an occupation as certain aspects of military service ........ and yet no mention of the efforts and sacrifices of the 5,394 men and boys, let alone of those who were seriously injured and maimed, or actually survived.
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Post by John on Jul 16, 2010 8:32:15 GMT -5
That's a lot of men who gave their all Daz, they indeed should have recognition. Just as an afterthought, a national miners memorial would also be appreciated for all those men, boys and women who lost their lives underground over the years coal was mined in the UK. Without coal, the industrial revolution would never have occurred.
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Post by John on Jul 16, 2010 9:29:50 GMT -5
To honour all those who gave their all, I'm putting a site together called "The National UK Miners Memorial Site" Anyone can add a major or minor disaster, if one exists!!
The site will be broken down into Wales, Scotland and England, with 18th 19th and 20th centuries, can always add 17th and 21st later.
I'd like to see the colliery, date of accident, nature of accident, details and those listed who were involved.
Nothing else will be permitted within the forums. Any discussions to be made here and only here.
Let me know what you think about the idea...
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Post by philipford734 on Jul 16, 2010 12:41:03 GMT -5
There was an Explosion at Cronton Colliery, Whiston, Lancashire, 21st August 1972. The explosion was in the Crombrouke Seam, In C1 intake development drivage.It was on a sunday night shift, the only work going on was fan inspections by the officials and some PPM work by craftsmen. It was reported that the exhaust ventilation fans had stoped in C1 int. A colliery deputy Edward Beesley and colliery electrician Kevin Walsh went to investigate. The fans where re-started and they went to investigate the heading. An explosion was reported to the surface at 4am by men in the Sandstone section of the pit. The surface telephone exchange contacted Boothstown Mines Rescue Station for assistance. A deputy and electrician went from the Sandstone district up to the Crombrouke. They walked into after-damp at the intake junction and where overcome but fortunately staggered out of the gas into fresh air. When the rescue teams arrived they took out the sandstone men and one team went into the heading wearing breathing apparatus to look for the two men that where missing. The two men where found dead about 100yds in. Just past them the drivage had collapsed. The drivage was not reopened a Lee-Norse Miner was left in there. The cause of the blast was never established.
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Post by John on Jul 17, 2010 7:53:05 GMT -5
I recall one at a Cumbrian Colliery during the mid 70's while I was working at Boulby. One of our fitters used to work at that pit before he came to Boulby. Killed several men. He said he bet they were trying to re open a section that was notorious for methane problems while he was there. Turned out he was right too.
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Post by bibobs on Jun 10, 2012 11:27:33 GMT -5
HMI recorded annual death-accident rates from July 1852 following info from 1873-1953 tables deaths 1939-1945 whole year not Sept-Sept 1939 total 800 1940 total 937 1941 total 937 1942 total 896 1943 total 723 1944 total 632 1945 total 552 Final total 5468 all broken into cause of accident From same tables highest number of deaths per accident per year Falls of roof/ground 1910 total 658 dead Explosions 1878 total 586 dead Shaft 1876 total 207 dead Haulage 1923 total 324 dead Other 1885 and 1895 total 175 dead Underground 1910 total 1659 dead Surface 1903 and 1917 total 159 dead Combined u/g sur 1910 total 1818 dead Maximum manpower for one year 1920 total 1269,567 bibobs
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Post by garyp on Nov 15, 2014 14:31:22 GMT -5
There was an Explosion at Cronton Colliery, Whiston, Lancashire, 21st August 1972. The explosion was in the Crombrouke Seam, In C1 intake development drivage.It was on a sunday night shift, the only work going on was fan inspections by the officials and some PPM work by craftsmen. It was reported that the exhaust ventilation fans had stoped in C1 int. A colliery deputy Edward Beesley and colliery electrician Kevin Walsh went to investigate. The fans where re-started and they went to investigate the heading. An explosion was reported to the surface at 4am by men in the Sandstone section of the pit. The surface telephone exchange contacted Boothstown Mines Rescue Station for assistance. A deputy and electrician went from the Sandstone district up to the Crombrouke. They walked into after-damp at the intake junction and where overcome but fortunately staggered out of the gas into fresh air. When the rescue teams arrived they took out the sandstone men and one team went into the heading wearing breathing apparatus to look for the two men that where missing. The two men where found dead about 100yds in. Just past them the drivage had collapsed. The drivage was not reopened a Lee-Norse Miner was left in there. The cause of the blast was never established.
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Post by garyp on Dec 4, 2014 4:58:59 GMT -5
my name is gary palmer and i was at cronton when this explosion happened but not working at the time teddy was my deputy at the time and kevin was the district electrician both good lads .i remember how sad was for the families especially kevins because he had done a swop with a mate that night who was going to a do that day . i always remembered kevin because he always whistled out of tune just to wind everybody up both sadly missed
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