Distance from the coal face for U/G workmen

[mickyf]

Hi Ppl,

Just a quick one, ive been searching through all my mining stuff for the distance to which you was allowed to go near to the Coal Face other than a coal face worker ie, haulage worker or any non face trained workmen. Something tells me it was 75yds? would anybody know the distance and was it a Regulation of any kind, thanx

mickyf

[John]

Just a guess 300feet., Reason I use that figure is because that's the area classed as a hazardous zone. Could be wrong, often am. Have you gone through the M&Q Act on line on training regs??
I know I was allowed right up to the GEB's where the face switchman was by the Deputies before I did my face training, approx 300 feet!
I also went on the face before the Dep found out I wasn't face trained! Boy did he get up the electrician I was working under. ;D
Week after I was doing my face training! .

[mickyf]

Hi John

Thanx for the reply, yes i have been looking through the Training Regs 1967 best part of yesterday (sunday) and it seems to be 10mts officially, but it quotes work cannot be performed wirhin 10mts of the coal face? weird i know because we used to get tackle upto the lip from off the end of the haulage and we got 65% bonus as we where inbye of the panels and closer to the lip/face as we probably should of, but on saying that it may of varied from pit to pit. I asked a m8 of mine who was a Deputy @ Rufford Colliery and he said straight away 10mts so i had a look for myself in the Training Regs 1967 which i am now about to re write them from my copy as it is getting a littla tatty so i will have a cleaner copy to refer back to IF needed!!!!but anyway thanx for replying..

mick (stan) fox

[John]

I remember the supply lads used to deliver supplies right to the ripping lips Stan, never gave it a thought back then though. I know my face training was different to a couple of mates in the same class at tech. I did mine with a tradesman, some of my mates did the full face training mining trainees did. Just the way the Manager at different pits carried out the rules.

[mickyf]

Yes John i also did that too, take the materials near enough to the lip so to get the job done and help the rippers and occasionally an early paper

I have JUST john @ 1.30pm monday been speaking to a Training Manager at a notts pit and as i or we both thought there is/was a specific distance of 50mts (55yds Approx) that you 'shouldnt' go beyond unless face trained of face visit but he did say it did vary from pit to pit so i think there is the answer.

stan

Oh! did you get time to put the Silverhill Docs i sent to you some while ago onto the page?

[John]

Jan 11, 2010 8:50:59 GMT -5 mickyf said:

Yes John i also did that too, take the materials near enough to the lip so to get the job done and help the rippers and occasionally an early paper

I have JUST john @ 1.30pm monday been speaking to a Training Manager at a notts pit and as i or we both thought there is/was a specific distance of 50mts (55yds Approx) that you 'shouldnt' go beyond unless face trained of face visit but he did say it did vary from pit to pit so i think there is the answer.

stan

Oh! did you get time to put the Silverhill Docs i sent to you some while ago onto the page?

Stan, can you resend those again please, but as high resolution as you can.
I am at present rebuilding the site from "floor up" and have totally changed the format to cover all UK pits. Spent several hours yesterday building templates and filling them with information. I've got the No6 Area nearly done, started the No 1 area last night, East Midlands that is! I still have many hours of work ahead of me. In just the last week, I have over 80 pages nearly finished, by that I mean without background image and photos..
Some pages take over an hour of work!! As soon as I've done the East Midlands Division, I'll be pulling the old site down and start uploading what I have, maybe two to three more weeks.

I checked the Silverhill stuff you sent Stan, I was in the middle of a roofing job at the time, but the pages need to be a higher resolution, as when I work with them, and size them they become unreadable. I'm not worried if each page is 1 mb or larger, my email box will take them. I can then resize and not lose clarity. The average size when sized, then reduced in data size for the webpages runs about 350kbs. But having a much larger file to start with helps me.

[Mick]

Hi to all sorry Jhon ive not been on forum,ive not been to good but will get info for you about yorkshire soon.
Now to the distance allowed from coal face ,when i was a timber lad at Gomersal i worked right at the ripping lip puttin the timber on the face belt it was a hand filled face.
When i had finished i would ride through the face to see if any of the fillers wanted anymore timber.
Sometimes they would only fill part of the face off,then they would pull the belt out of the corner and take it down to the end of the tail gate pack.
So i would have to throw the timber down the face to the belt.
Mick.

[John]

Jan 11, 2010 15:11:08 GMT -5 Mick said:

Hi to all sorry Jhon ive not been on forum,ive not been to good but will get info for you about yorkshire soon.
Now to the distance allowed from coal face ,when i was a timber lad at Gomersal i worked right at the ripping lip puttin the timber on the face belt it was a hand filled face.
When i had finished i would ride through the face to see if any of the fillers wanted anymore timber.
Sometimes they would only fill part of the face off,then they would pull the belt out of the corner and take it down to the end of the tail gate pack.
So i would have to throw the timber down the face to the belt.
Mick.

That's OK Mick, get well, been ill myself for the last few years so sympathize mate!! I have plenty to keep me busy for a long time. When you're ready, just send me what you have, I'll fit it in as I work on the site. Thanks!! I appreciate everything everyone sends me mate, long term project!!!

[inbye]

When I was on supplies at Park Mill, in the late 60's early 70's, it was as far as the rails were laid. In the tailgate that was often close to ripping lip, although, in the main gate I don't remember going further than the stage loader.

There were always loads of supplies *left behind* especially in the tailgate, this sometimes gave the chance to come back on Friday nights & do a *double* moving the supplies forward. Great stuff, just me & a mate with the gate & haulage to ourselves. Just had to keep an eye out for the deputies lamp

[kennygeorge]

Hi guys, my first posting as I've just found your site,
Back to the point, in south Wales a "trainee" ie non face trained would have a white rim on his lamp and he would "under close personal supervision" and not allowed within 30 feet of a production face.
Hope this helps a little
Regards Ken