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Post by John on Jan 7, 2009 18:10:23 GMT -5
The collieries were sunk and worked by the Willoughby family.
I'm trying to get the history of operations before nationalisation.
I have found out the family made their fortune in coal and farming in the 16th century onwards.
They had mines operating north west of Wollaton and built the Wollaton Hall and grounds from their profits.
There is very little information on the old Radford Colliery, which was situated close to the old Raleigh Cycle Works in Radford.
I'd be thankful for any information any guest could supply on these two pits!
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Post by John on Jan 9, 2009 21:33:51 GMT -5
I've some info to post on Radford and Wollaton Collieries after I sift through a book a gentleman has emailed me, tons of valuable history regarding the Wollaton area of Nottingham.
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Post by plantfit on May 17, 2012 14:16:17 GMT -5
I have a picture of Radford colliery during demolition,it's on a CDrom,I'll see if I can scan it and put it on the site with any info thats with it, and obviousley with credits
Roger
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Post by John on May 17, 2012 15:29:38 GMT -5
I have a picture of Radford colliery during demolition,it's on a CDrom,I'll see if I can scan it and put it on the site with any info thats with it, and obviousley with credits Roger
This is about the only photo of Radford I've seen. |
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Post by John on May 17, 2012 15:33:14 GMT -5
These are a couple of Electricians who worked there and were transferred to Wollaton, then when that closed to Clifton.
Dave Watson.
Ernie  I'll think of his name soon..
There was another one who's name eludes me, I used to call him asbestos guts as he could drink a boiling cup of tea as if it was cold.
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Post by bibobs on May 17, 2012 16:21:48 GMT -5
Re Willoughby pits
Working in 1807 Holly Wood Bilborough three quarters of a mile SE of church Bilborough shaft 160yards deep first pit in County to install a steam winder. Robinets three quarters of a mile East of Cossall a spurr was made from the Wollaton canal to serve this pit Wollaton one and a quarter miles NW of town
1842 Wollaton 100 yards deep Radford 63 yards deep Trowell 112 yards deep. I have a map showing lots of old shafts in this area. plus numorous fatal accidents at these early pits
Bibobs
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Post by bibobs on May 17, 2012 16:44:45 GMT -5
Re Radford pit A single shaft pit linked underground to Wollaton Shaft used for men and materials only coal raised at Wollaton Some had separate managers times others times one manager ran both pits worked 1898 -1965. Prior to Nationalization both were naked light pits. naked lights were allowed in certain sections of the mine, This practice banned by HMI in 1947. The earlier Radford pit was situated at the rear of Chalfont Drive with the last fatal occurring 1n 1852. Over the years the shaft collapsed and was filled but in the 1930s collapsed again and filled with water with brambles and bushes growing around the top. In July 1945 a 10 year old boy was raspberry picking when he fell into this shaft and drowned,
Bibobs
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Post by John on May 18, 2012 6:54:14 GMT -5
This puzzles me.
1842 Wollaton 100 yards deep Radford 63 yards deep Trowell 112 yards deep. I have a map showing lots of old shafts in this area. plus numorous fatal accidents at these early pits
As information from the Geology of the Country Between Newark and Nottingham, conficts with your Radford shaft depths, it lists the Top Hard seam as being reached at 240ft in the shaft, but was sunk down to the Deep Hard seam, no depth given, but at Wollaton the depth of the Deep Hard seam was 594ft 2 ins from the surface, now as the seams dip to the east, my guess would be the Deep Hard seam would be 600 ft plus deep, or over 200 yards. I know Wollaton couldn't work the top hard due to being only 38ft 4ins below the surface and I believe they sunk the shafts down to the Deep Hard seam at 594ft 2 ins.
What were your sources of information please?/b]
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Post by bibobs on May 18, 2012 9:20:51 GMT -5
Reply, log on to Government report children in coal mines 1842 all Nott's working mines and details are given the 1807 is from Nottingham Library
plus ten years extensive researching into colliery fatal accidents, results Nottinghamshire 3293 Derbyshire 4300 Leicestershire about 700 plus 3250 injured miners admitted to NGH 1846 1950.
Shaft sites from a former NCB surveyor who has researched Midlands mining for 40 years
Documents from ex NCB survey office some detail re Lord Middletons pits
{Catstonehill } Shaws plantation 120yd to Deep Hard coal got Hard and Soft coals 100 yd deep in pit towards fault. remaining shaft filled n
by area 5
Taylors pit next to Cupola pit got Hard coal 112 yd deep to fault filled and capped 1966
Cupola pit 110yd deepdip of coal 1 in 10filled and capped 1966
Burtons pit next to Taylors 108 yd deep filled and capped 1966
Balloon Houses pit107 yd deep
Wood pit near Balloon houses 105 yd deep and fault 50yd in the deep
One rope pit upon fault 85yd to Hard coaln near 8yd
engine and by pit 112 yd deepgot coal hard and soft below the fault in Wollaton
Bramcote ans Sherwins100yd to Hard coal
This range of pits has got the Hard and Soft coals in Trowell and a small portion in Wollaton South of Ballon Houses and a large quantity of Sherwins [ No pits of Lord Middleton South of the canal}
There is another page giving further detail . Remember these early pits work in the exposed section of the coalfield and these depths were about the maximum for this area.I have come acros some as shallow as 15 yds Before the modern pits worked Wollaton had 17 fatals Trowell 7 and Radford 3 the earliest from parish records was 1657
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Post by John on May 18, 2012 13:00:16 GMT -5
Reply, log on to Government report children in coal mines 1842 all Nott's working mines and details are given the 1807 is from Nottingham Library plus ten years extensive researching into colliery fatal accidents, results Nottinghamshire 3293 Derbyshire 4300 Leicestershire about 700 plus 3250 injured miners admitted to NGH 1846 1950. Shaft sites from a former NCB surveyor who has researched Midlands mining for 40 years Documents from ex NCB survey office some detail re Lord Middletons pits {Catstonehill } Shaws plantation 120yd to Deep Hard coal got Hard and Soft coals 100 yd deep in pit towards fault. remaining shaft filled n by area 5 Taylors pit next to Cupola pit got Hard coal 112 yd deep to fault filled and capped 1966 Cupola pit 110yd deepdip of coal 1 in 10filled and capped 1966 Burtons pit next to Taylors 108 yd deep filled and capped 1966 Balloon Houses pit107 yd deep Wood pit near Balloon houses 105 yd deep and fault 50yd in the deep One rope pit upon fault 85yd to Hard coaln near 8yd engine and by pit 112 yd deepgot coal hard and soft below the fault in Wollaton Bramcote ans Sherwins100yd to Hard coal This range of pits has got the Hard and Soft coals in Trowell and a small portion in Wollaton South of Ballon Houses and a large quantity of Sherwins [ No pits of Lord Middleton South of the canal} There is another page giving further detail . Remember these early pits work in the exposed section of the coalfield and these depths were about the maximum for this area.I have come acros some as shallow as 15 yds Before the modern pits worked Wollaton had 17 fatals Trowell 7 and Radford 3 the earliest from parish records was 1657 |
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Post by bibobs on May 18, 2012 15:37:28 GMT -5
No bell Pits were from the 1500s onwards. By the 1770s these were the first mines as such. shaft widths were from 5 to 10 ft maximum entry was by Whim Gins the roads were driven from the shaft at seam height after a few hundred yards another shaft was sunk for ventilation. some shafts were brick lined others not. some had dry brick lining that was reused when another shaft was needed.They only worked when coal was in demand Also in the Wollaton area were pits at Nuthall Awsworth Strelley
Bilborough. The Edge family grew wealthy on coal workings on their estates. From 1800 on mines operated at Eastwood Beggarlee Selston
Babbington Village and many more places. The beginning of the industrial revolution, steam and the railways saw the onset of pits as we came to know them.
Bibobs
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Post by John on May 18, 2012 15:47:55 GMT -5
Some of these must be the shafts in the Strelley area near the M1, like the Catstone Hill Colliery, which I think is near Babbington north of Spring Wood, another shaft near Oldmoor Wood west of the M1, a shaft north of Stonepit Plantation, and I think the original Cinderhill Colliery was at or close to Assarts Lodge where two disused shafts are shown on maps, all west of the old NCB's Babbington Colliery.
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Post by bibobs on May 19, 2012 8:18:20 GMT -5
Re old shafts some are shown and marked on Ordanace survey maps I have many myself. The original NCB maps of which i have copies show scores of old shafts and bell pits at least 17 shafts are under th M1 between Strelley and Nuthall. These are not to scale but bell pits are shown in clusters shafts usually in lines were they were sunk as needed re ventilation and underground transport of coal. Cinderhill/Babbington pit was sunk by T North 1840s, he worked Turkey Field and in Babbington village area Thiswas considered the first modern mine in the County, satelite pits to Cinderhill were Kimberley 2 shafts Newcastle {Whitemoor}
1 shaft Bulwell 1 Shaft Broxtowe 2 shafts. The NCB were requiredby law to mark all shafts nationally and fill those considered dangerous. In this area an old shaft collapsed at Kimberley in the 1930s-30 and someones back garden disapeared also the tragedy at the old Radford shaft in 1945
Bibobs
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I'll think of his name soon..