Underground mining method

[jeromeowen]

POST REMOVED.
Has no bearing on the subject and although is not blatant advertising comes very close.

[shropshirebloke]

Awww John, I was waiting for the next one. They were a bit like those emails I keep getting......."Ladies will love how your amazing longwall keeps producing all night loooooonnnnngggg". OK, I never reply to them, honest (but I've heard that the blue pills are only sugar tablets, ahem....).

Meanwhile, here in Shropshire, I was a bit surprised to read that longwall was "developed in Europe in the 1950s....". I suppose that's why our local council are still spending millions dealing with 18th & 19th century subsidence from old longwall workings, and why it's often known as "the Shropshire Way" or "the Shropshire method".....

Anyroad, MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR to all readers and their loved ones - as for the Credit Crunch - remember what Roosevelt (the only really decent American politician EVER) said : "we have nothing to fear but fear itself".

Rob

[John]

Just someone who was using an excuse to commercial advertise Rob, if he does it again, I will ban and block him.

The longwall is also known as the "Nottingham method", probably did start in the west country though, more evidence of that claim.
Yep Merry Xmas to you and yours from myself and my wife.

John

[shropshirebloke]

.....most good ideas have more than one source - but I'm sure longwall was known in Nottinghamshire and Shropshire slightly before the 1950's!!!!

[John]

Dec 18, 2008 19:47:33 GMT -5 shropshirebloke said:

.....most good ideas have more than one source - but I'm sure longwall was known in Nottinghamshire and Shropshire slightly before the 1950's!!!!

Very true Rob, over two hundred years as far as I know.

[peter77]

This longwall will be also referred to as the "Nottingham method", probably performed come from the gulf nation nevertheless, a lot more proof which state.
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[John]

Feb 9, 2013 1:28:08 GMT -5 peter77 said:

This longwall will be also referred to as the "Nottingham method", probably performed come from the gulf nation nevertheless, a lot more proof which state.

I don't get "your drift" Peter.
It was known as the Nottingham method, as it was accepted more readily there and worked by many mine owners...BUT, don't get confused with longwall mining in the 18th century to longwall mining today. Even taking modern machines out of the picture, hand got longwalls of the 20th century were different to the faces of the 18th century.
History shows us longwalling started in Shropshire, probably devised to improve ventilation more than anything.

[Wheldale]

Feb 9, 2013 9:00:16 GMT -5 John said:

Feb 9, 2013 1:28:08 GMT -5 peter77 said:

This longwall will be also referred to as the "Nottingham method", probably performed come from the gulf nation nevertheless, a lot more proof which state.

I don't get "your drift" Peter.
It was known as the Nottingham method, as it was accepted more readily there and worked by many mine owners...BUT, don't get confused with longwall mining in the 18th century to longwall mining today. Even taking modern machines out of the picture, hand got longwalls of the 20th century were different to the faces of the 18th century.
History shows us longwalling started in Shropshire, probably devised to improve ventilation more than anything.

I wondered if (and iam probably wrong!) Nottingham method refferred to modern longwall mining as I know the likes of Bolsover colliery was a test bed for longwall equipment in the 40's and 50's. Now I know Bolsover is closer to Chesterfield than Nottingham. I just wondered if it was Nottingham were modern longwall mining was pioneered in the UK and perhaps the world?

[John]

I think it goes back a couple of centuries, the concealed coalfield of Nottinghamshire accepted longwalls more than any other area, although looking at old photos of the late 1800's, there were still a lot of Bord and Pillar mines.
First "modern" longwalls predate mechanisation by over 100 years, the pre mechanised faces usually had a couple of "snicket" gates between the main and tail gates to get the coal off the face. A left over from the long curved faces of the 17th and 18th centuries.
Faces of the 1800's, they had a "hewer" who's job was to undercut the face with a short pick, known in Notts as a "miners peck", he'd lay on his side as the undercut progressed.
Next, the coal was levered down with long steel bars plus wedges and hammers. Slack was used as packing material in the goaf, lumps only were sent to surface.

[John]

One of the first power loaders was being used in the 1930's and evolving right up to it's demise in the 1950's and not one survives that is known about, The Meco-Moore Slicer Loader.
I remember when we were being taught about the Planned Maintenance scheme during my apprenticeship, we were shown an NCB film on the Meco-Moore.
There's a video on this site I found while researching.