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Post by John on Jan 3, 2007 9:34:03 GMT -5
My first pit had steam winders, haven't a clue what make HP or much else regarding them. I do recall one of them "blew" a cylinder head off one day due to condensation forming. The company who made them were still in business but not in making steam equipment anymore. They did have the origonal blueprints and offerered to turn a new head for us!! It was well under way by the time the truck from our pit arrived at their works and was being fitted a few hours later!
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Post by limey on Feb 7, 2007 9:23:08 GMT -5
When I worked at Donisthorpe, the upcast shaft (manriding) was still a steam winder. I understand it was one of only two left in operation when the mine closed in 1990! What amazing contraptions they were!
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Post by John on Feb 7, 2007 9:31:51 GMT -5
When I worked at Donisthorpe, the upcast shaft (manriding) was still a steam winder. I understand it was one of only two left in operation when the mine closed in 1990! What amazing contraptions they were! Yeh don't knock 'em! Gedling in Nottingham held the record for winds in an hour! I don't think it was ever beaten. BTW, Daz comes from your neck of the woods, Yorkshire!
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Post by limey on Feb 7, 2007 9:37:56 GMT -5
Nah - I was born in Nottingham (Arnold actually) and grew up in Long Eaton. I worked for the South Midlands Region at mines in Leicestershire, South Derbyshire, and part of Staffs.
Donisthorpe is just outside Ashby-de-la-Zouch in Leicestershire. I also worked for a while at Snibston in Coalville - it is now a museum (worth a visit if you are in the area)!
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Post by John on Feb 7, 2007 9:42:18 GMT -5
Nah - I was born in Nottingham (Arnold actually) and grew up in Long Eaton. I worked for the South Midlands Region at mines in Leicestershire, South Derbyshire, and part of Staffs. Donisthorpe is just outside Ashby-de-la-Zouch in Leicestershire. I also worked for a while at Snibston in Coalville - it is now a museum (worth a visit if you are in the area)! Well, well, well, I was born in the City Hospital, lived in St Anns for my first 13 years then the Meadows until demolition, then Clifton Estate. I worked at the old Clifton Colliery until closure then finished my apprenticeship at Cotgrave. Check this site out! www.nottstalgia.com/forums/
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Post by limey on Feb 7, 2007 10:00:55 GMT -5
Hey thanks - that looks like a cool site, and very active!
It really is a very small world - but my wife (Michigan born and bred) still really doesn't "get" what "It's a bit black ovver Bills mothers" really means!
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Post by John on Feb 7, 2007 10:23:05 GMT -5
If you join, you will be put on pending, we have a rather nasty troll who keeps registering using proxy servers, Mick the owner will activate your account.
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Post by abdaz on Feb 7, 2007 13:55:51 GMT -5
"BTW, Daz comes from your neck of the woods, Yorkshire!" Heyup gaffer, gerra grip, or better still gerra an atlas that includes England (not the new one, the old original one.) Quick refresh for you 'J', Yorkshire is the industrial, geographical, educational, intellectual, horti and agri-cultural, national and international diplomatic centre of the universe, but with some trepidation I would respectfully suggest that we are still not quite lucky enough to be geographically close to any of the other place names that have been mentioned in either your own or Limey's posts. (It may be that in my old age I have managed to miss a mention of a place nearer to Yorkshire than I thought I had in any of the recent flurry of postings, in which case please ignore and excuse this outburst as being the result of a 'manic fixation' resulting from a rapidly progressive case of premature senile decay.) Failing that, as I said earlier, GERRA a MAP.
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Post by John on Feb 7, 2007 14:19:07 GMT -5
"BTW, Daz comes from your neck of the woods, Yorkshire!" Heyup gaffer, gerra grip, or better still gerra an atlas that includes England (not the new one, the old original one.) Quick refresh for you 'J', Yorkshire is the industrial, geographical, educational, intellectual, horti and agri-cultural, national and international diplomatic centre of the universe, but with some trepidation I would respectfully suggest that we are still not quite lucky enough to be geographically close to any of the other place names that have been mentioned in either your own or Limey's posts. (It may be that in my old age I have managed to miss a mention of a place nearer to Yorkshire than I thought I had in any of the recent flurry of postings, in which case please ignore and excuse this outburst as being the result of a 'manic fixation' resulting from a rapidly progressive case of premature senile decay.) Failing that, as I said earlier, GERRA a MAP. Whoops I hang my head in shame Daz, just looked it up, Leicestershire, it's the Doni bit that threw me.. Please accept my profound apologise, after all I am a lecko...
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Post by John on Feb 7, 2007 14:20:27 GMT -5
You forgot, Cricket and Rugger.... Not to mention some great soccer teams...
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Post by abdaz on Feb 7, 2007 14:34:20 GMT -5
"You forgot, Cricket and Rugger.... Not to mention some great soccer teams... " I didn't want it to seem as though I was bragging.
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Post by limey on Mar 9, 2007 9:40:44 GMT -5
I discovered that these guys I. A. Recordings have a video of the Donisthorpe steam winder - I ordered a copy which arrived last Tuesday. Great footage of the winding engine, and some of the pit top where I used to embark on my trip into mother earth! Sad to think it is all gone - but the engine is in "mothballs" at the Snibston museum. Hopefully somebody will restore it to working condition!
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Post by John on Mar 10, 2007 12:25:24 GMT -5
They were great to watch in action, I still remember vividly all those polished copper pipes, the sounds and sights of those great engines during my apprenticeship.
Although, even the large electric winders are a sight to behold!
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Post by Ragger on Mar 22, 2007 15:01:52 GMT -5
The steam winder at Pleasley Colliery, Derbyshire has been refurbished. After the pit closed, a preservation order was placed on the colliery, but not before the winder had been desecrated by the elements. Broken windows, damaged roof, wind. rain etc.
This was the info produced about the winders in a 1950 Colliery Engineering publication.
The winder at the upcast shaft was manufactured by Markham & Co. Ltd. It has two cylinders 36 in. dia. By 84 in. stroke and has a drum 21 ft. in dia. The overwind-protection gear is by Thornehill & Warham and a King’s slow banker is provided, the brake engine being of Markham manufacture and operating Burns-type brake gear. A steam pressure of 150lbs. Per sq. in. is used.
The downcast winding engine is of Lilleshall manufacture and has cylinders 40¼ (?) in. dia. And 72 in. stroke, which are fitted with Mellings drop valves. The overwind-protection device, the slow banker and the brake engines are duplicates of those installed in the other winder, but in this case Black’s spring brake gear is fitted.
The engine works on a pressure of 80 to 85 lb. per sq. in. The drum, which is of the parallel type, is 19 ft. 6 in. in diameter.
Both winding engines are housed in handsomely appointed buildings finished in an agreeable combination of green and cream paint with red tiles.
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Post by Ragger on Mar 23, 2007 5:38:49 GMT -5
<IMG SRC="http://www.pitwork.net/pleasley\winding engine.jpg">
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Post by Ragger on Mar 23, 2007 5:47:22 GMT -5
Whoops, don't know why the link failed John.
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Post by John on Mar 23, 2007 7:39:44 GMT -5
There you go Bill.
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Post by Ragger on Mar 23, 2007 8:30:24 GMT -5
Thanks John you've restorded my faith in sparky's.
I expect you had to bridge something out. ;D ;D
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Post by John on Mar 23, 2007 9:08:15 GMT -5
Mechanical problem Bill, hit it with my chrome plated two pound hammer.
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Post by Ragger on Mar 23, 2007 14:15:07 GMT -5
Typical response, blaming t'other side John. And nice to see you've upgraded your tool-box. Chrome plated, very posh.
Blaming t'other side gave me an idea.
What about starting a new theme along the lines of Billy Liar. Who has heard or was told the "tallest story" (stretched the truth a long way."
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Post by John on Mar 23, 2007 15:34:04 GMT -5
Typical response, blaming t'other side John. And nice to see you've upgraded your tool-box. Chrome plated, very posh. Blaming t'other side gave me an idea. What about starting a new theme along the lines of Billy Liar. Who has heard or was told the "tallest story" (stretched the truth a long way." Just start a new thread in the "A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Face" board Bill. Yeh, yer can't trust that old boy from Barnsley!!
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Post by plantfit on Apr 13, 2009 4:40:37 GMT -5
Steam winder at Caphouse colliery, otherwise known as "The coal mining museum for England" this is the place I get to see some of the equipment you guy's talk about Rog
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Post by John on Apr 13, 2009 6:41:45 GMT -5
Isn't that one still "roped up" and used to transport visitors down that pit Roger??
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Post by plantfit on Apr 13, 2009 10:44:11 GMT -5
It is still "roped up" but I think visitors are transported by electric motor and winch, there is another shaft they are working on at the moment (restoration) and I think it might be connected to that one eventually,
Rog
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