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Post by colly0410 on Nov 21, 2016 15:38:23 GMT -5
On BBC1 at 9PM tonight (21 Nov 2016) a program about the last deep coal mine in Britain! I'm recording it at as SWMBO is watching her soaps..
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Post by fortythreesflyer on Nov 21, 2016 18:53:31 GMT -5
It's in 2 parts second on next monday at 21.00.
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Post by colly0410 on Nov 26, 2016 6:12:56 GMT -5
Finally got round to watching it, took me back. Was quite a thick seam they were working (don't know which seam it was though presume it was Beeston) & when he shown us the new seam (presume Parkgate) all ready to be developed & got working I thought he was going to cry. One bloke said "the country will regret the closure of the coal mines sooner or later" I agree with him.Looking forwards to part 2 on Monday, suppose I'll have to wait till SWMBO has watched her soaps though, lol..
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Post by dazbt on Nov 28, 2016 1:35:12 GMT -5
On BBC1 at 9PM tonight (21 Nov 2016) a program about the last deep coal mine in Britain! I'm recording it at as SWMBO is watching her soaps.. I enjoyed watching the 'film' especially the musical bit, humour within sadness. My only two questions would be "Why was the shearer slow hauling?" ........ it should have been bowling that coal off .......... "Where was the Joy rep?" Thirty odd years ago Kellingley management would have had an Anderson service engineer tied to the boom if the AM500 had been cutting as slowly as that.  |
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Post by rob52 on Nov 28, 2016 7:13:57 GMT -5
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Post by dazbt on Nov 28, 2016 14:23:23 GMT -5
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Post by johnh on Nov 29, 2016 5:17:39 GMT -5
Have just watched both episodes on YouTube ( can't get BBC in Aus) and I must say it was enjoyable, entertaining, funny and sad & emotional, never having personally worked in the UK pits only the pits of Australia It was sad to see the final demise of once great and powerful industry. Being born in Yorkshire coal has been been in my family for generations and to think that has gone is a crime. Unfortunately I think the same demise will eventually happen here maybe not in my working life but certainly not long after. The banter and humour that goes on at the face is something you don't see anywhere else even when the nuts hits the fan and the gears is stood broken. Best of luck to all the guys in the programme.
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Post by colly0410 on Nov 29, 2016 11:57:45 GMT -5
I felt for the bloke who had a flat tyre on the first day of his fibre optic cable jointing course that made him late, know how he felt as I had a flat last week. He was not a happy bunny as he threw his jack down in temper swearing as he tried to change the wheel, must admit (hanging my head in shame) that I laughed, if he reads this 'I'm sorry for laughing.' Loads of blokes with tears in their eyes on the last coaling shift & who can blame them. Presume all the kit has been left down there & not salvaged..
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Post by rob52 on Nov 30, 2016 6:36:09 GMT -5
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Post by colly0410 on Nov 30, 2016 10:44:27 GMT -5
Didn't notice any roofbolting anywhere down there, seemed to be arched girders in most places. When I was down Caphouse pit a few weeks ago & asked Dave the guide if any roofbolting was down here? He said "stop swearing!" I'm wondering "do Yorkshire miners dislike roofbolts?"
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Post by Clive on Dec 1, 2016 13:04:00 GMT -5
Didn't notice any roofbolting anywhere down there, seemed to be arched girders in most places. When I was down Caphouse pit a few weeks ago & asked Dave the guide if any roofbolting was down here? He said "stop swearing!" I'm wondering "do Yorkshire miners dislike roofbolts?" I did my c 4 practical in 89 there. I was in private mines so all pick nshovel. Sure they were bolting cause it would be first time would have actualy seen it. They had tell tales for sure..otherwise I wouldn't know they exist. I think it was a mixture of both. It looked more primitive on telly this week than it did back in 89. Both ug and on top.bit like scallys had moved in to a mansion but not looked after it.and I dont mean the men UK coal didn't maintained ncb infetstructure. Every private mine I worked in was a strow .Basically badly kept farm .even after a bath ..if they had them...we had to go home to get ready to go out. That prog made the big K lookike some 70 s town center in this year. If you want apraciate illustration....go shopping in Burnley this weekend. Turn on your wireless... The undertones and bay city rollers will be on |
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Post by merlin on Aug 6, 2018 11:41:49 GMT -5
Didn't notice any roofbolting anywhere down there, seemed to be arched girders in most places. When I was down Caphouse pit a few weeks ago & asked Dave the guide if any roofbolting was down here? He said "stop swearing!" I'm wondering "do Yorkshire miners dislike roofbolts?" I do not like roof bolting does not look safe give me rings evertime |
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Post by John on Aug 6, 2018 14:06:56 GMT -5
Didn't notice any roofbolting anywhere down there, seemed to be arched girders in most places. When I was down Caphouse pit a few weeks ago & asked Dave the guide if any roofbolting was down here? He said "stop swearing!" I'm wondering "do Yorkshire miners dislike roofbolts?" I do not like roof bolting does not look safe give me rings evertime
First time I saw a bolted road was at Clifton where I served most of my apprenticeship, that was on 1's No5 road in the mid 60's. The NCB was testing them, and the road was bolted around 1955. Ten years with no deterioration of roof, not too bad.
I first worked under bolted roofs at Boulby in North Yorks, we did have a few problems, but that's was due to the depth of that mine and "creep" in the potash beds. One problem they faced was bolts shearing due to side creep, something unique in potash.
All roads in the two collieries I worked at in Oz were all bolted with no problems.
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Post by merlin on Aug 30, 2019 11:05:20 GMT -5
Didn't notice any roofbolting anywhere down there, seemed to be arched girders in most places. When I was down Caphouse pit a few weeks ago & asked Dave the guide if any roofbolting was down here? He said "stop swearing!" I'm wondering "do Yorkshire miners dislike roofbolts?" I did my c 4 practical in 89 there. I was in private mines so all pick nshovel. Sure they were bolting cause it would be first time would have actualy seen it. They had tell tales for sure..otherwise I wouldn't know they exist. I think it was a mixture of both. It looked more primitive on telly this week than it did back in 89. Both ug and on top.bit like scallys had moved in to a mansion but not looked after it.and I dont mean the men UK coal didn't maintained ncb infetstructure. Every private mine I worked in was a strow .Basically badly kept farm .even after a bath ..if they had them...we had to go home to get ready to go out. That prog made the big K lookike some 70 s town center in this year. If you want apraciate illustration....go shopping in Burnley this weekend. Turn on your wireless... The undertones and bay city rollers will be on |
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Post by merlin on Aug 30, 2019 11:08:11 GMT -5
ROOF BOLTS DONT LOOK SAFE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE ROOF TAKES WEIGHT
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Post by John on Aug 30, 2019 13:10:31 GMT -5
ROOF BOLTS DONT LOOK SAFE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE ROOF TAKES WEIGHT
Bed separation can and does occur if the roof isn't bolted as early as possible after roadway advance has taken place, hence roof bolting machines mounted on the CM.
I first saw roof bolts tried out at my first pit, Clifton, which was taken over by the government during the war years. The bolting was done in the early 60's near the end of 1's No5 conveyor belt. I started in 1964, and they had been set around two years pre my start, roof was still good. Next experience with them was at Boulby Potash mine in North Yorks. We had some failures with them, mainly shearing off due to the depth of the mine, and the potash seam which tended to "creep". Prior to my leaving, they started driving roads in the salt seam below the potash as it was more stable.
After that I was working in NSW coal mines, all bolting and props and bars. Rarely saw bolt failure there, they seemed to work pretty good.
Like I stated, they have to be installed soon after mining the mineral, or bed separation will occur and the bolts won't work as specified.
Remember the bad accident in a Yorkshire Colliery during private ownership with bolted roads wasn't a failure of the bolts, it was caused by two roads way too close together, leaving little to no support, and the roof started converging.
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Post by dazbt on Sept 10, 2019 3:43:13 GMT -5
Quote; "Remember the bad accident in a Yorkshire Colliery during private ownership with bolted roads wasn't a failure of the bolts, it was caused by two roads way too close together, leaving little to no support, and the roof started converging."
I could be wrong in assuming that you are refering to the the 1993 incident at Bilsthorpe Colliery, if you are then I'm a bit surprised that a thro and thro Notty would forsake Bilsthorpe and attempt to shove it into Yorkshire and, it wasn't in private ownership at the time, it was taken over by RJB the following year, in 1994. Hope yer keepin well J.
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Post by John on Sept 10, 2019 8:46:44 GMT -5
Quote; "Remember the bad accident in a Yorkshire Colliery during private ownership with bolted roads wasn't a failure of the bolts, it was caused by two roads way too close together, leaving little to no support, and the roof started converging." I could be wrong in assuming that you are refering to the the 1993 incident at Bilsthorpe Colliery, if you are then I'm a bit surprised that a thro and thro Notty would forsake Bilsthorpe and attempt to shove it into Yorkshire and, it wasn't in private ownership at the time, it was taken over by RJB the following year, in 1994. Hope yer keepin well J.
Supposed to be bloody retired but her in doors working me to death... Other than that, keeping well thanks Daz. |
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