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Post by kundyhole on Dec 18, 2014 6:05:10 GMT -5
A few video's I found this morning Portrait of a Miner 40 years onwww.liveleak.com/view?i=943_1318973573The Coal Miners final part of this NCB film about the work of miners in the 1950's as new mechanisation helped increase output many times over.www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3f_1319291688NCB Collection Miners P1 another set of men who enjoy a group camaraderie as they work together and depend upon each other for their safety and survival whilst underground. these miners are from Bagworth Colliery Leicestershire..www.liveleak.com/view?i=e0e_1322084132NCB - Time Lost Lord Robens open the film with a short demonstration/explanation of where the 8 hour underground coal shift goes. He was trying to 'gee-up' the workforce into increasing their productivity and efficiency rate in the face of ever growing competition from imported coal. New power stations were being built to run on the newly discovered North Sea Gas so the NCB lost another valuable customer.
He had to tread wearily for the industry had become riddled with old working practices and strife among the workers at the pit face. Lord Robens knew the writing was on the wall yet he tried to coax it along into a new(er) era which, to some extent, he achieved quite well.
In 1966 the National Coal Board like many other industries stood on the brink. Society was changing and people did not want to work in those conditions below ground. Better wages were to be had in the ever growing automobile plants. Plus, the price of coal was tumbling as cheaper imports from Poland and Australia were undermining the British mined coal. It seems strange that coal mined in Australia and shipped 12,000+ miles could still be cheaper than coal mined here - although it's only fair to point out the imported coal came from vast open cast drag mines whereas the UK product came from older deep level workings.
This filum shows a good representation of work below ground in a troubled industry during the 1960's. www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf9_1416142701Hope you enjoy them and they bring back a few memories . Regards Max |
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Post by John on Dec 18, 2014 7:05:13 GMT -5
A few video's I found this morning Portrait of a Miner 40 years onwww.liveleak.com/view?i=943_1318973573The Coal Miners final part of this NCB film about the work of miners in the 1950's as new mechanisation helped increase output many times over.www.liveleak.com/view?i=d3f_1319291688NCB Collection Miners P1 another set of men who enjoy a group camaraderie as they work together and depend upon each other for their safety and survival whilst underground. these miners are from Bagworth Colliery Leicestershire..www.liveleak.com/view?i=e0e_1322084132NCB - Time Lost Lord Robens open the film with a short demonstration/explanation of where the 8 hour underground coal shift goes. He was trying to 'gee-up' the workforce into increasing their productivity and efficiency rate in the face of ever growing competition from imported coal. New power stations were being built to run on the newly discovered North Sea Gas so the NCB lost another valuable customer.
He had to tread wearily for the industry had become riddled with old working practices and strife among the workers at the pit face. Lord Robens knew the writing was on the wall yet he tried to coax it along into a new(er) era which, to some extent, he achieved quite well.
In 1966 the National Coal Board like many other industries stood on the brink. Society was changing and people did not want to work in those conditions below ground. Better wages were to be had in the ever growing automobile plants. Plus, the price of coal was tumbling as cheaper imports from Poland and Australia were undermining the British mined coal. It seems strange that coal mined in Australia and shipped 12,000+ miles could still be cheaper than coal mined here - although it's only fair to point out the imported coal came from vast open cast drag mines whereas the UK product came from older deep level workings.
This filum shows a good representation of work below ground in a troubled industry during the 1960's. www.liveleak.com/view?i=cf9_1416142701Hope you enjoy them and they bring back a few memories . Regards Max |
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Post by John on Dec 18, 2014 7:12:15 GMT -5
I've a few myself, some sent to me by Jim in Cananda and a set I bought, I'll have to have a go at "ripping" them and posting them on Youtube one of these days.
I have the set "Portrait of a Miner" produced by the BFI, all old NCB films transferred to DVD's, well worth purchasing.
Mining Review, King Coal, Nines was Standing, Miners Health Centre, Mining Review 2nd year No10, Mining Review, 2nd year No12, Plan For Coal, The Shovel....Only the Coal Board could make a big deal out of the humble shovel...LOL, Time Out and many more in that collection.
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Post by kundyhole on Dec 18, 2014 7:14:45 GMT -5
John hope you didn't mind me posting the links I was not sure how to embed ! Me being a trainee and all , never mind one day I will have to do my CPS  Regards Max |
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Post by John on Dec 18, 2014 8:30:30 GMT -5
John hope you didn't mind me posting the links I was not sure how to embed ! Me being a trainee and all , never mind one day I will have to do my CPS Regards Max |
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Post by Clive on Dec 19, 2014 16:28:31 GMT -5
I've a few myself, some sent to me by Jim in Cananda and a set I bought, I'll have to have a go at "ripping" them and posting them on Youtube one of these days.
I have the set "Portrait of a Miner" produced by the BFI, all old NCB films transferred to DVD's, well worth purchasing.
Mining Review, King Coal, Nines was Standing, Miners Health Centre, Mining Review 2nd year No10, Mining Review, 2nd year No12, Plan For Coal, The Shovel....Only the Coal Board could make a big deal out of the humble shovel...LOL, Time Out and many more in that collection. hey John, I used to have the shovel vidieo...Have you mastered the 'pioneer throw' yet |
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Post by John on Dec 19, 2014 16:44:01 GMT -5
I've a few myself, some sent to me by Jim in Cananda and a set I bought, I'll have to have a go at "ripping" them and posting them on Youtube one of these days.
I have the set "Portrait of a Miner" produced by the BFI, all old NCB films transferred to DVD's, well worth purchasing.
Mining Review, King Coal, Nines was Standing, Miners Health Centre, Mining Review 2nd year No10, Mining Review, 2nd year No12, Plan For Coal, The Shovel....Only the Coal Board could make a big deal out of the humble shovel...LOL, Time Out and many more in that collection. hey John, I used to have the shovel vidieo...Have you mastered the 'pioneer throw' yet  I will say one thing though Clive, took me bloody ages to get used to shoveling standing up in the garden, I must have looked a proper "narna" kneeling down turning the soil over to plant veggies.....AND that's no joke either. |
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Post by Clive on Dec 20, 2014 10:27:44 GMT -5
I will say one thing though Clive, took me bloody ages to get used to shoveling standing up in the garden, I must have looked a proper "narna" kneeling down turning the soil over to plant veggies.....AND that's no joke either.
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John on that robens vidieo,,,mobodys face ; Johnney kept refering to the pans as a 'crawley?' is that what it was called down in yorkshire, he does apear to have a mild barnsley accent, he was also very well mannered, unlike many foul mouthed face men i came accross
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Post by John on Dec 20, 2014 11:30:11 GMT -5
I will say one thing though Clive, took me bloody ages to get used to shoveling standing up in the garden, I must have looked a proper "narna" kneeling down turning the soil over to plant veggies.....AND that's no joke either. John on that robens vidieo,,,mobodys face ; Johnney kept refering to the pans as a 'crawley?' is that what it was called down in yorkshire, he does apear to have a mild barnsley accent, he was also very well mannered, unlike many foul mouthed face men i came accross [/quote] A Crawley to me was a stage loader, Clive, I'm from the next county down from Yorkshire, I just spent my last few years working in North Yorks before I left the UK for sunnier climes.. |
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Post by fortythreesflyer on Dec 20, 2014 11:52:50 GMT -5
We called the stage loader a crawley at Wheldale, i have got to say some of those old cutting machines looked to be a fitters nightmare.
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Post by John on Dec 20, 2014 12:53:18 GMT -5
We called the stage loader a crawley at Wheldale, i have got to say some of those old cutting machines looked to be a fitters nightmare.
When the Meco was the only power loader, faces were propped and barred, starting with wood props both gob and face side, then with Dowty props and rigid link bars to give a prop free front. Shame the AFC wasn't around at the time and powered self advancing supports too, the Meco would have given the trepanner a run for it's money then..
They were a few years before my time, but I do recall a couple of NCB training films depicting them, one was a PPM training film and the other something to explain how the store system worked at a pit.
There's also a film about Gedling Colliery upgrades sometime pre Vesting day, there is good footage of a Meco-Moore being tested on the surface, the fitters have me cringing!! They get pretty close to moving cutter picks.
If memory serves me right, I placed a link to those films in the video section of the board. |
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Post by fortythreesflyer on Dec 20, 2014 13:26:01 GMT -5
I suppose I was luck, started my fitters apprenticeship april 1969, we only had AB15s in the tail gate AB16 for the main and AB15 waffler in the loader gate advanced heading. Pretty basic but it worked.
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Post by John on Dec 20, 2014 15:20:23 GMT -5
I suppose I was luck, started my fitters apprenticeship april 1969, we only had AB15s in the tail gate AB16 for the main and AB15 waffler in the loader gate advanced heading. Pretty basic but it worked.
My guess was this was the pits first fully mechanised face. It was equipped with Mk1 Dowty Roofmasters that were powered by hydraulic oil!! Kind of messy when a hose blew!. I remember the pre cutter being removed one nightshift, never altered production figures, so no idea why they installed it in the first place.
When I was transferred to Cotgrave, they used both AB16/125's and AB16/200 HP shearers plus a face with a BJD Magnamatic shearer.
They were doing away with stableholes at that time in the T/G, so used two shearers on the face, "main and sumping" shearers. The "sumping shearer cut right into the "fast end", ripping was dropped and they used slushers to get the muck into the gate.
M/G still had a stablehole with an AB15 cutter.
Another odd thing they had there was the transformer was almost at the ripping lip on a monorail. They had an exemption, but had to have a heavy shotfiring protection plate in front or the transformer. The GEB's were also on the monorail just outbye of the transformer.
Reason for that was the bad floor problems, very heavy floorlift. Both gates on all faces had full time dinting crews in them. |
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Post by fortythreesflyer on Dec 20, 2014 21:18:59 GMT -5
We had the pickrose slusher in the tail gate ripping, I used always at the loader gate end of the face when the call on the tannoy would call out for me to go back to the T/G to re-splice the slusher rope, not too bad you would think but the face hight was only 30-34inch, no wonder my knees are knackered, oh and playing rugby league could not have helped either. I think we used to have the BJD magnamatic on some of the older faces quite an easy machine to work on. any way John have a very happy Christmas and a prosperous and healthy new year. Kev
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