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Mar 16, 2014 13:49:26 GMT -5
Post by smshogun on Mar 16, 2014 13:49:26 GMT -5
Ironically it was the replacement button lad for the one in the previous Ghostly Going On's which created several problems, he wasn't idle, he just didn't like nights or day shifts as he fell asleep on days until passing gangers woke him, and he fell asleep on nights virtually every night which wasn't a real problem except that neither the tannoy or phone would wake him.
Coal faces and headings never stopped for snap as most men had a little to eat before going onto the districts and left early and had their snap at the end of the shift which actually enhanced production and benefitted the men as they preferred it, but this button man created problems when the main belt started and he didn't restart the extension belt after they had stopped during the shift and the face deputy had to walk over a mile and a half to wake him up and start the extension belt.
One night mad Mick swapped gates and covered the main gate and the face while the face deputy covered the tail gate so they has someone at each end for shotfiring and suddenly the belts stopped, mad Mick phoned the top of the main road to see if they had started the belt and was told they had and after getting no response from this button lad on the tannoy or phone he set off at a brisk walk to teach him a lesson and restart the belt, and teach him a lesson he did, lets just say he communicated with him in a language he understood.
All was well for a few days and a plan was suggested, we moved his button, tannoy, and phone from the old stopped roadway and put them on the main road; the old stopped roadway was used as a store for timber, hardstop, stonedust, and ring bolts by the box load due to the rate of advance of the face, then he slipped back into his old ways.
We used to put a water manifold into the water main at every conveyor transfer point and this was nothing more than an elongated U shaped 6" pipe with a series of inserts welded in which were 1" BSP fitting, these would be used for anything from belt dust suppression feeds to supplying hardstop machines with water, and we used Victaulic pipe which meant we could slacken the joints and rotate the pipe; the inserts would either be fitted with blanks if they were not used, or have 1" BSP nipples inserted and Conflow valves fitted to switch them on or off individually.
One night we moved his box which he sat on directly opposite the manifold as we knew the main water was to be switched off and a combined pressure/flow meter was to be installed and we slackened off the pipe and turned it until it aimed directly at his seat, all the blanks were removed from the spare inserts and 1" BSP nipples were inserted and Conflow valves were fitted, we took the centres ouf of 1" reusable ends and screwed them onto the valves, but we had drilled the handles of the valves and ran a length of bell wire through them and connected them together, this ran on the inside of the belt structure and between the top and bottom belt.
It happened, he fell asleep and nobody could contact him or wake him up so off went a fuming deputy, he got on the stret side of the belt and pulled the wire which opened all 8 spare outlets and the button lad got hit with 8 high pressure jets of water, this woke him up and he never slept after that; this was still in place until the day the mine closed.
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Mar 16, 2014 14:46:40 GMT -5
Post by tygwyn on Mar 16, 2014 14:46:40 GMT -5
Luckily his eye was`nt taken out, What an irresponsible thing to do.
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Mar 16, 2014 16:34:48 GMT -5
Post by shropshirebloke on Mar 16, 2014 16:34:48 GMT -5
Hold up Tygwyn - there'll be 4,000 words of research along in a minute to show it was a totally safe therapeutic shower, at a pit in the Shetlands...set up in secret as part of an international conspiracy by the energy companies, to mine granite (the wonder fuel) - but all the witnesses have been killed...
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Clive
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Mar 16, 2014 16:43:09 GMT -5
Post by Clive on Mar 16, 2014 16:43:09 GMT -5
Luckily his eye was`nt taken out, What an irresponsible thing to do. but it would be great fule to paul's fire re ncb v private
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Mar 17, 2014 6:53:18 GMT -5
Post by John on Mar 17, 2014 6:53:18 GMT -5
Luckily his eye was`nt taken out, What an irresponsible thing to do. I think we have all done things in the past, that in hindsight was stupid, I know I have. I was the electrician on a face team, one of the team was covering for an absent team member, he was as thick as two short planks and just as stupid. To save time and bonus I was "operating a shovel" complicated job!! Last two shields were bogged down in fines and water so were holding the shearer up from "snaking in" This said idiot was tossing lumps of coal in a swilly of water causing me much displeasure, so, knowing the idiot was going to be doing a double shift, drowned him in soluble oil mix from head to toe. I shut the pressure valve on a shield, lowered one leg, pulled the "u" pin and pulled a hose off, opened the pressure valve and let him have it. He grabbed the water hose on the shearer, but the driver took it off him and washed him down with fresh water....LOL No more stupidity from that idiot after that. Could have been dangerous though as the main pressure was over 4000psi in the closed circuit at several gallons a minute......
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Mar 17, 2014 18:10:05 GMT -5
Post by tygwyn on Mar 17, 2014 18:10:05 GMT -5
Luckily his eye was`nt taken out, What an irresponsible thing to do. but it would be great fule to paul's fire re ncb v private That it would Clive,shame it was`nt posted on the Welsh forum,Lol.
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Mar 17, 2014 18:23:32 GMT -5
Post by tygwyn on Mar 17, 2014 18:23:32 GMT -5
Luckily his eye was`nt taken out, What an irresponsible thing to do. I think we have all done things in the past, that in hindsight was stupid, I know I have. I was the electrician on a face team, one of the team was covering for an absent team member, he was as thick as two short planks and just as stupid. To save time and bonus I was "operating a shovel" complicated job!! Last two shields were bogged down in fines and water so were holding the shearer up from "snaking in" This said idiot was tossing lumps of coal in a swilly of water causing me much displeasure, so, knowing the idiot was going to be doing a double shift, drowned him in soluble oil mix from head to toe. I shut the pressure valve on a shield, lowered one leg, pulled the "u" pin and pulled a hose off, opened the pressure valve and let him have it. He grabbed the water hose on the shearer, but the driver took it off him and washed him down with fresh water....LOL No more stupidity from that idiot after that. Could have been dangerous though as the main pressure was over 4000psi in the closed circuit at several gallons a minute...... There must be a clue in here somewhere,Oh yes,you both worked in Cotgrave,must be something in the water up there.
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Mar 18, 2014 5:53:06 GMT -5
Post by John on Mar 18, 2014 5:53:06 GMT -5
I think we have all done things in the past, that in hindsight was stupid, I know I have. I was the electrician on a face team, one of the team was covering for an absent team member, he was as thick as two short planks and just as stupid. To save time and bonus I was "operating a shovel" complicated job!! Last two shields were bogged down in fines and water so were holding the shearer up from "snaking in" This said idiot was tossing lumps of coal in a swilly of water causing me much displeasure, so, knowing the idiot was going to be doing a double shift, drowned him in soluble oil mix from head to toe. I shut the pressure valve on a shield, lowered one leg, pulled the "u" pin and pulled a hose off, opened the pressure valve and let him have it. He grabbed the water hose on the shearer, but the driver took it off him and washed him down with fresh water....LOL No more stupidity from that idiot after that. Could have been dangerous though as the main pressure was over 4000psi in the closed circuit at several gallons a minute...... There must be a clue in here somewhere,Oh yes,you both worked in Cotgrave,must be something in the water up there. No, thousands of miles away from Cotgrave, and I'd have been fired on the spot and prosecuted had it been Cotgrave...(1960's)
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Mar 18, 2014 7:16:10 GMT -5
Post by tygwyn on Mar 18, 2014 7:16:10 GMT -5
I gathered by the post in was in OZ John.
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Mar 18, 2014 7:46:04 GMT -5
Post by John on Mar 18, 2014 7:46:04 GMT -5
I gathered by the post in was in OZ John. I left Cotgrave as soon as I'd finished my apprenticeship and before I'd been indoctrinated by them, it was a crap place to work in the 60's.
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Mar 27, 2014 13:01:52 GMT -5
Post by smshogun on Mar 27, 2014 13:01:52 GMT -5
It was a crap place full stop.
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Mar 27, 2014 15:47:44 GMT -5
Post by John on Mar 27, 2014 15:47:44 GMT -5
It was a crap place full stop. I'm glad I left when I did, I think by leaving after I'd completed my apprenticeship, I "honed" my skills, learned to work totally unsupervised and make my own decisions as against a leading hand or engineer telling me what to do, and it made me a far better electrician.
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Mar 28, 2014 10:07:06 GMT -5
Post by smshogun on Mar 28, 2014 10:07:06 GMT -5
John, water pressure regulated to 80 PSI underground, and on surface fire fighting hydrants.
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Mar 28, 2014 11:08:26 GMT -5
Post by John on Mar 28, 2014 11:08:26 GMT -5
John, water pressure regulated to 80 PSI underground, and on surface fire fighting hydrants. I was talking roof support main pressure, which was over 4000psi, and pilot pressure at around 1500psi...Later roof support pressures are way higher than that these days, to cope with the higher "setting" load.
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