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Post by John on Mar 12, 2015 10:45:02 GMT -5
John, been looking back at some of the subjects on site.
Came across reference to dumbing down of kids. This applies to society in general. Have you come across Chem-trails and HAARP (case sensitive). Also fluoridation of water supplies.
These are methods of dumbing down people.
Chem-trails involve spraying from aircraft or drones with chemicals.
In 50's, parts of UK were sprayed in anticipation of Cold War aggression to see what effect it would have on public.
Chem-trails have been dismissed as vapour trails. NOT SO. Vapour trails disappear, chem-trails don't, they just expand into cloud base.
Hope you find this interesting, or perhaps you know more!!!!
Mick
There are also two HAARP projects running in China, one in Russia and I'm sure there is one in Finland run by the EEC.
One effect recorded from the HAARP set up in Alaska was a "bulge" in the upper atmosphere, recorded by high altitude weather satellites, the bulge was caused by dissipation of RF energy as heat, it has been accused that the phenomenon caused the Jet Stream to move south around it?? In effect it altered weather patterns for the southern USA.
I suspect with this information getting out is the reason for NASA/CIA/US military to abandon the "experiment". Maybe they have proven weather altering is possible and are working on a new more powerful set up in a secret location?? Conjecture on my part!!
Weather alteration would be a great military weapon!!! Imagine being able to either cause droughts or major flooding to an enemy nation!
As regards to flouride Hitler was supposed to have used it in prison camps to make the inmates docile. We also know it doesn't prevent cavities in our teeth, just the opposite, causes problems with teeth, BUT, it's a great way to dispose of a toxic material from the manufacture of aluminium! Up until a couple of decades back, to dispose of flouride, you needed a toxic material license and could only dump the crap at specially government licensed dumps.
I do have many links book marked, I do like to read between the lines on some of them and do further research, as there are mis information sites on the internet, plus some loony's too.
Going back to Nikola Tesla, now there was a brilliant man, a century ahead of his time, but to understand where he was coming from, we have to forget every physical law taught us in text books in our trade Mick. Sure he gave us polyphase power, induction motors etc, but he believed in "free power" too, he had a concept of producing power from the earths magnetic field, he proved it could be done too. Imagine every home in the world, having their own power producing generator costing nothing to run, and giving each home as much free electricity as they required! That was his dream, and the reason George Westinghouse fired him and had him blacklisted. Westinghouse only saw big bucks to be made generating and distributing electric power, which made him much richer. |
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Post by eleceng on Mar 13, 2015 17:00:50 GMT -5
I'm certain they can control the atmosphere & weather. Remember the Bejing Olympics. The Authorities were concerned about the pollution & fog weeks before the event. Miraculously, it cleared to give wonderful bright, sunny conditions. Was this just coincidence !!!! LOL.
Tesler, what a genius, how many more similar people had great ideas'. Homeopathic medicine practice, just to name one.
It's good to see sensible comments about the '84 strike.
Money was pumped into NUM funds and not traceable. Probably in diplomatic bags which could not be searched, thus no electronic footprint! But were did this money go. Certainly not to the striking miners. Was it into King Arthur's pocket and other close associates.
I was at a meeting with Arthur several weeks before the strike broke. I was a NUM(COSA) rep. at the time. When the discussion of how the strike should be called, he said the men would vote with their feet. I said he would have to hold a ballot. He dismissed it right away. I said we have a rule book that greater men than he or I fought for, and anyway, why strike in summertime when coal wasn't used. He totally ignored this reasoning. |
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Post by John on Mar 13, 2015 18:37:45 GMT -5
Tesla's mind hadn't been "closed" by college professors, he'd gained his knowledge the hard way, reading up on what others had done and formulating his own ideas
I was reading up on one of his experiments a few years back that he carried out in Colorado Springs, which is a few miles south of Denver.
It's when I think back on the "accepted" theories on solid state technology that I have to have a belly laugh, holes traveling through solids....I wonder what tomorrows electronic engineers will think when they read our old text books???
Another one I scoff at, is in thermionic emission theory in vacuum tubes, (valves), current traveling one way and electrons traveling the opposite way, surely electrons carry the charge, if the theory was correct, how do we get current flow... Tesla would laugh at that theory.
No, I don't have a theory on either solid state theory or thermionic emission theory, I learned RF electronics from books and passed the exams, I know enough to fault find in a circuit and if it's not surface mount components, I will repair it, neither my eyesight is good enough, nor my hands steady enough to remove a tiny cap or resistor and solder in another without causing problems...LOL
Now give me a B&F GEB to work on, and no problems, I could change out an isolator in around 30 minutes! Or an E/L module in an A67 in about an hour.
There's a lot of folk who would scoff at being told it's possible to send an electric current through the air. And yet the same people just don't think where their TV signal comes from or how it reaches their antenna.
These were the very way Tesla sent electricity through the air, very very high frequencies. Westinghouse financed a huge tower that Tesla built, but pulled the plug when he found out Tesla's plan to produce free electricity for the masses.
I'm sure he used and amplified the earths magnetic field, much similar to how we generate electricity with generators and alternators, only the only moving part is the earths rotation.
There are schematics available to reproduce his generator on a small scale, and the idea does work, now whether it's the earths magnetic field or signals picked up by the tuned circuit from radio stations is another story.
But, a good earth a coil in series with a large antenna, couple of capacitors, will produce a current measurable with a voltmeter and a milliameter in series with the load will register the voltage and current being produced.
As for the big strike, I don't get involved in too many discussions on it, I was in Australia during that strike and everything we heard was second hand. I've read up a lot on it, and from what I read the only lot that had any planning was the Tory Government. Scargill was outclassed, very little planning and he took the bait just as the Thatcher government had anticipated.
In hind sight, I could have planned it better.
I was also reading that Thatcher came very close to throwing the towel in, had the Deputies and Engineers walked out in sympathy, the strike would never have lasted any near as long, it was those people Thatcher was counting on to keep the pits maintained.
Scargill just didn't anticipate the governments dirty trick department, using false press releases, tapping telephones, opening mail, using the army and passing laws to limit picketing.
He should have taken a leaf out of Australian trade unionism, all out via a democratic vote, we didn't set up picket lines, gates were open to allow emergency personnel to come and go. We provided labour as needed to make sure we had a pit to come back to. Our unions allowed the longwalls to cut a couple of shears per week to keep the faces open. There was a union official at the local offices for management to call should they need any men in an emergency, all vetted!!
We were obliged to provide two electricians per shift, one to cover the surface switchgear while power was on underground, one one to cover U/G pumping and any faults that may occur during the shift, plus signing for equipment as required by the Regs.
BUT, it's easy to look back and see the mistakes made.
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Post by eleceng on Mar 16, 2015 9:25:00 GMT -5
Sorry for misspelling Tesla, had been reading an article by a bloke called Tesler in magazine, not related at all, just a senior moment lapse! LOL.
You were quite right about Scargill taking the bait. In Ian McGregor's book he saw the strike as a game of poker. He would have lost if a ballot had been held. Most certainly NACODS would have joined the strike & possibly some elements of BACM. the pits would have been completely parallized.
In Joe Gormley's book "Battered Cherub", he wrote about a full meeting between Coal Board & NUM executive in the 70's. Derek Ezra was chairman, he suggested some pits would have to close for economic reasons. Gormley demanded how many. About 60 was Ezra's reply. Uproar from NUM. Gormley calmed things down. " Do you want us to do your job for you. You know the result would be a strike. Well, you're not getting it. We'll go work to rule & overtime ban" he said. Ezra climbed down. He also warned, "beware of the Yorkshire element". Say no more!
Getting back to Tesla, did he plan to harness lightning power? It could seem so in the construction of his towers. |
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2015 11:37:46 GMT -5
Sorry for misspelling Tesla, had been reading an article by a bloke called Tesler in magazine, not related at all, just a senior moment lapse! LOL.
You were quite right about Scargill taking the bait. In Ian McGregor's book he saw the strike as a game of poker. He would have lost if a ballot had been held. Most certainly NACODS would have joined the strike & possibly some elements of BACM. the pits would have been completely parallized.
In Joe Gormley's book "Battered Cherub", he wrote about a full meeting between Coal Board & NUM executive in the 70's. Derek Ezra was chairman, he suggested some pits would have to close for economic reasons. Gormley demanded how many. About 60 was Ezra's reply. Uproar from NUM. Gormley calmed things down. " Do you want us to do your job for you. You know the result would be a strike. Well, you're not getting it. We'll go work to rule & overtime ban" he said. Ezra climbed down. He also warned, "beware of the Yorkshire element". Say no more!
Getting back to Tesla, did he plan to harness lightning power? It could seem so in the construction of his towers.
There is a report that after he died, his apartment was raided by the FBI and what notes found were seized and locked away.
I can't see lightning ever being used for anything, there's just no way to store it.
I think Tesla may have had ideas about lightning, my theory of lightning is the earth's atmosphere is a huge capacitor, the outer layer gets charged via the rotation of the earth, ordinarily nobody notices this as there is no circuit between the upper layers and earth itself. Thunderstorms are basically the breakdown of the dielectric, aka the lower levels of the atmosphere. When so called thunder clouds form, the tops go to several miles high, loaded with a conductor, moisture, causing a breakdown of the dielectric to form a short circuit between the outer layers and earth itself.
I wonder if Tesla theorized the same thing??
A lot of Tesla's experiments were conducted with very high frequency electricity, if you look at some of the remaining notes of his that have been found, they are basically large coils with many turns with a parallel capacitor, which looks like a modern RF amplifiers "Tank Circuit" Which works like a flywheel. Hence the name "Tank Circuit", stores energy, while energy is loaded into it, it oscillates. |
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Post by tygwyn on Mar 16, 2015 11:48:19 GMT -5
You were quite right about Scargill taking the bait. In Ian McGregor's book he saw the strike as a game of poker. He would have lost if a ballot had been held. Most certainly NACODS would have joined the strike & possibly some elements of BACM. the pits would have been completely parallized.
He would have lost his game of poker if Them lot had also come out in support of their fellow members,and Nacods had not taken the bribe,
But come privatisation,it would`nt have mattered a jot,in 12mths there`ll be lucky if there are 2 Collieries working in the whole of the UK.
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Post by Clive on Mar 16, 2015 16:24:09 GMT -5
Wow some interesting stuff. been off line for a week or two
Our income tax goes to pay off the national debt. the bank of england is just like the fedreal reserve. when the govt issue bonds the banks buy them and print money...from nothing.(Who owns the bank of england? used to be Rockerfellas, but its shrouded in mystery now)
interest is then owed on the bonds and our tax goes to pay the bankers interest who created the fiat money from nothing at all.
when you take out a loan, mortgague, the money is created from nothing, just numbers typed into your account, but interest is owed on that money. We are a debt based sociaty because that is how currency is created, pay off the debt...end of currency so more debt is needed. Its a big ponzi scheame
If you deposit £1000 in your bank, due to fractional reserve banking, the bank may have to hold 10% of that money whilst lending the rest out. Say Jim deposits £1000 in the bank and john goes for a loan...The bank can loan John £900 of Jim's deposit. Right do the maths. How much money is now in circulation?
£1900. Jim thinks he has £1000 in the bank and John has £900 in his back pocket... Hey presto, £900 created from nowt, and John has interest to pay on his loan. He now deposits that money in his own bank. They have to keep 10%. so the following day Daz goes for a loan so the bank give him £810. So now we have £2,710 out of £1000. This carries on and you can get around £10,000 out of £1000.
Now ask yourself. Why are there no pits, steel works , cotton mills ect? Who needs them when you can create money from nothing and get paid interest on it, which is what is happening. Its called the free market and has been govt pollicy by every brit govt since the 40's.
Add to thet QE and the country is flooded in paper and credit money = hyper inflation. Best way to stop it is to export all the money buying foregn goods...hey we could do with some coal iron and steel. This eventualy knackers up the 3rd world countries who are now swimming in $, the currency of trade. Unless you are iraqy or lybian and want to trade in euros, but they put a stop to that didn't they.
Its a unbelivable what is going on in the city, the dirrivatives market and all that. Jim thats why theres no pits, it wouldn't have mattered who wone the strike, its the same accross all the western world. And yes John the catholic church fought to keep the pesents in ignorance and they burned those who fought for truth.
Today the masses are kept down by the drug dealers, cheep booze and volent vidieo games, keep them quiat and whos going to revolt.
sadly Jim we are dinosours with values from an age thats long gone. Look on every high street at the shops, fast food, payday loans, cheep supermarkets, who invests in all this? Well banks like merril lynch and citi group for a start.
people work in tescos for min wage, which is made up by tax credits so the corperations can keep wages low and pay ceo's a few mill a year and massive dividends to shareholders.
Its a very interesting subject but ultimatly it will collapce, it has to because every fiat currency ever invented eventualy goes back to its intrinsic value...the paper its written on. It very nealy happned in 08 and they havent fixed the problem, just put a plaster on a gaping wound
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Post by John on Mar 16, 2015 16:59:08 GMT -5
Wow some interesting stuff. been off line for a week or two Our income tax goes to pay off the national debt. the bank of england is just like the fedreal reserve. when the govt issue bonds the banks buy them and print money...from nothing.(Who owns the bank of england? used to be Rockerfellas, but its shrouded in mystery now) interest is then owed on the bonds and our tax goes to pay the bankers interest who created the fiat money from nothing at all. when you take out a loan, mortgague, the money is created from nothing, just numbers typed into your account, but interest is owed on that money. We are a debt based sociaty because that is how currency is created, pay off the debt...end of currency so more debt is needed. Its a big ponzi scheame If you deposit £1000 in your bank, due to fractional reserve banking, the bank may have to hold 10% of that money whilst lending the rest out. Say Jim deposits £1000 in the bank and john goes for a loan...The bank can loan John £900 of Jim's deposit. Right do the maths. How much money is now in circulation? £1900. Jim thinks he has £1000 in the bank and John has £900 in his back pocket... Hey presto, £900 created from nowt, and John has interest to pay on his loan. He now deposits that money in his own bank. They have to keep 10%. so the following day Daz goes for a loan so the bank give him £810. So now we have £2,710 out of £1000. This carries on and you can get around £10,000 out of £1000. Now ask yourself. Why are there no pits, steel works , cotton mills ect? Who needs them when you can create money from nothing and get paid interest on it, which is what is happening. Its called the free market and has been govt pollicy by every brit govt since the 40's. Add to thet QE and the country is flooded in paper and credit money = hyper inflation. Best way to stop it is to export all the money buying foregn goods...hey we could do with some coal iron and steel. This eventualy knackers up the 3rd world countries who are now swimming in $, the currency of trade. Unless you are iraqy or lybian and want to trade in euros, but they put a stop to that didn't they. Its a unbelivable what is going on in the city, the dirrivatives market and all that. Jim thats why theres no pits, it wouldn't have mattered who wone the strike, its the same accross all the western world. And yes John the catholic church fought to keep the pesents in ignorance and they burned those who fought for truth. Today the masses are kept down by the drug dealers, cheep booze and volent vidieo games, keep them quiat and whos going to revolt. sadly Jim we are dinosours with values from an age thats long gone. Look on every high street at the shops, fast food, payday loans, cheep supermarkets, who invests in all this? Well banks like merril lynch and citi group for a start. people work in tescos for min wage, which is made up by tax credits so the corperations can keep wages low and pay ceo's a few mill a year and massive dividends to shareholders. Its a very interesting subject but ultimatly it will collapce, it has to because every fiat currency ever invented eventualy goes back to its intrinsic value...the paper its written on. It very nealy happned in 08 and they havent fixed the problem, just put a plaster on a gaping wound
The founding Fathers of the USA were dead set against centralized banking, that was one of the reasons they drafted the Constitution, it essentially "shackled" the government..Sadly the people fell asleep, the Banksters managed to get the 17th amendment through, although it was illegally ratified.
Same with the 14th amendment, which actually created 2 classes of citizens.
Worst of all was in 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed with just enough for a quorum, That led the way to the 16th amendment, again illegally ratified.
Now the Banksters get away with murder !!
Reading history, Abe Lincoln was assassinated due to his stance on centralized banks, there is an unsubstantiated rumour that JFK was going to spill the beans on the Banksters and return the US to the Gold Standard, the following week, just before he was due to read his speech to the nation, he was assassinated.
I downloaded tons of info from the internet from reliable sites years ago, there is a shelf almost full of all this stuff, plus books on the subject I bought and read.
There are some good videos on Youtube explaining how fractional reserve banking works, it must be an eyeopener for those that trust those bits of paper we call money. |
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Post by Clive on Mar 17, 2015 13:22:16 GMT -5
we've probably een watching the same stuff John, think one opf the rockerfellas also quoted as saying the same thing. Read book called ouch, where he explains the financial system and the big short which was an eye opener into the 08 crash. Another interesting quote though was ' its only the little secrets you need to keep because the big ones are so incredulas that no one will belive them. Aljezera did an interesting 4 parter into the crash. If you find anygood stuff let us know.
By the way youve put me off waqter and toothpaste for life
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Post by smshogun on May 3, 2015 20:51:41 GMT -5
Clive:
Its the Rothschilds, not the Rockerfellers who own the Bank of England, Federal Reserve, and all the other depositories. |
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Post by smshogun on May 28, 2015 21:37:52 GMT -5
Mick/John
Not only do they fluoridate water they also add many other things such as the anti-psychotic drug lithium to name just one, this is in addition to the anti fertility drugs they add.
The social elite are in a quandary, they want a reduction in the worlds population of at least 20% which was confirmed from a leaked report from a Bilderberg meeting and of course they want to semi sedate the remaining population, hence the reason for fluoride (a known poison and toxin now banned in many US states) as fluoride covers up a lot of these other added drugs un water. |
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Post by John on May 29, 2015 7:59:54 GMT -5
Mick/John
Not only do they fluoridate water they also add many other things such as the anti-psychotic drug lithium to name just one, this is in addition to the anti fertility drugs they add.
The social elite are in a quandary, they want a reduction in the worlds population of at least 20% which was confirmed from a leaked report from a Bilderberg meeting and of course they want to semi sedate the remaining population, hence the reason for fluoride (a known poison and toxin now banned in many US states) as fluoride covers up a lot of these other added drugs un water.
News, our FDA has stated fluoride, has done more harm than good and has brought in new regulations to limit the amount added to town water, just a fraction of what was being added, should be banned totally. Now even the ADA (Dentists trade union..LOL) has stated it doesn't protect teeth at all. WOW!! and now we have a full generation with teeth damaged by fluoride!! |
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Post by colly0410 on May 29, 2015 11:26:30 GMT -5
Just been looking on severn-trent's site about my water supply: It's moderately soft & it says they only add chlorine to sterilise & phosphate to coat lead pipes. Whether it's true or not I don't know..
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Post by John on May 29, 2015 11:52:16 GMT -5
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Post by colly0410 on May 29, 2015 12:29:24 GMT -5
Thanks for the link John. When I lived in Kirkby-in-Ashfield I was drinking fluoride in the water according to the map, it always tasted a bit weird up there, my Father-in-law always used to bring his own Hucknall water when he came to visit, we had a camping kettle just for him. Sue & I just got used to it & didn't notice the taste after a while. Mind you when I go there now I can taste the difference..
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Post by dazbt on May 29, 2015 14:33:26 GMT -5
Mick/John
Not only do they fluoridate water they also add many other things such as the anti-psychotic drug lithium to name just one, this is in addition to the anti fertility drugs they add.
The social elite are in a quandary, they want a reduction in the worlds population of at least 20% which was confirmed from a leaked report from a Bilderberg meeting and of course they want to semi sedate the remaining population, hence the reason for fluoride (a known poison and toxin now banned in many US states) as fluoride covers up a lot of these other added drugs un water.
News, our FDA has stated fluoride, has done more harm than good and has brought in new regulations to limit the amount added to town water, just a fraction of what was being added, should be banned totally. Now even the ADA (Dentists trade union..LOL) has stated it doesn't protect teeth at all. WOW!! and now we have a full generation with teeth damaged by fluoride!! Duh !! I never get anything right, for most of my life I believed that water from Limestone strata was classified as being hard and as such was the worst type of water to facilitate the making of a good cup of tea, I was also misled into believing that "Limestone Water" naturally contained leached fluoride not only in sufficient quantities as to prevent the need for artificially adding any but, that some natural "Limestone Water" actually contained ten times more that the safe level considered by authorities who actively adding Fluoride to other types of water in the alleged interest of improving dental health, just goes to show eh? |
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Post by John on May 29, 2015 14:52:43 GMT -5
I'm lucky, my water doesn't come from a municipal water treatment plant, it comes out of limestone measures beneath my feet, wonderful tasing water, makes a great "cuppa" tea..
News, our FDA has stated fluoride, has done more harm than good and has brought in new regulations to limit the amount added to town water, just a fraction of what was being added, should be banned totally. Now even the ADA (Dentists trade union..LOL) has stated it doesn't protect teeth at all. WOW!! and now we have a full generation with teeth damaged by fluoride!! Duh !! I never get anything right, for most of my life I believed that water from Limestone strata was classified as being hard and as such was the worst type of water to facilitate the making of a good cup of tea, I was also misled into believing that "Limestone Water" naturally contained leached fluoride not only in sufficient quantities as to prevent the need for artificially adding any but, that some natural "Limestone Water" actually contained ten times more that the safe level considered by authorities who actively adding Fluoride to other types of water in the alleged interest of improving dental health, just goes to show eh?
But it does make a good "cuppa". One day I'll get back into home brewing of beer.
As for preventing tooth decay, well even dentists now have changed their minds, both the American Dental Association and the FDA have now reduced the higher limits of fluoridation of water for consumption, the figures were published earlier this week, and they are a fraction of what was previously recommended, with a paragraph stating exceeding those new limits is bad for our health. Now all we need is fluoride free toothpaste.
The photo I use for my avatar, is the water from one of the largest natural springs in the world, all from limestone formations, nobody knows for sure where the actual source of the water comes from, but many years back, or so I'm told, someone dropped a bale of hay into a sinkhole to see if it was the same source of water as that at Mammoth spring. A couple of hours later, lots of straw surfaced at Mammoth Spring, so they know it was part of the springs source of water. The flow has no record of slowing, even during drought years. |
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Post by smshogun on May 30, 2015 20:35:13 GMT -5
Sorry Daz, missed this.
It is only a misleading statement, or to be more accurate it tells only a partial truth and not the whole truth.
Common Law is the presiding or superior legislation which trumps all other law.
This is only a criminal offence under Acts and Statutes and if you remember acts and statutes are bound by the legal maxim which states "Acts and Statutes are only given the force of law with the consent of the governed" so now we can unravel it to get its true meaning. It clearly states acts and statutes are not law, if they were law (as common law is) they would have the full power of law as Common Law does, but note the given the FORCE of law aspect and the play on words.
What it should actually state is "failing to pay your TV license will remain a criminal offence if you allow us to create joinder or you are silly enough to consent to acts and statutes; if you don't allow us to create joinder or consent to acts and statutes it has about as much validity as a fly farting in space and cannot be a criminal offence under alleged law which requires us to consent as we haven't consented and never will; so your so called act and statute doesn't exist and nobody can be prosecuted under a law which doesn't exist.
Good point about protection, fortunately Common Law covers it all under harm, loss, or injury so you can already cover it with Common Law as it once was so there's no need for Acts and Statutes as you actually have more protection under Common Law than you ever can under Acts and Statutes. Remember acts and statutes are designed solely with the intention of relieving you of cash easily and cheaply.
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Post by dazbt on May 31, 2015 2:32:53 GMT -5
Sorry Daz, missed this.
It is only a misleading statement, or to be more accurate it tells only a partial truth and not the whole truth.
Common Law is the presiding or superior legislation which trumps all other law.
This is only a criminal offence under Acts and Statutes and if you remember acts and statutes are bound by the legal maxim which states "Acts and Statutes are only given the force of law with the consent of the governed" so now we can unravel it to get its true meaning. It clearly states acts and statutes are not law, if they were law (as common law is) they would have the full power of law as Common Law does, but note the given the FORCE of law aspect and the play on words.
What it should actually state is "failing to pay your TV license will remain a criminal offence if you allow us to create joinder or you are silly enough to consent to acts and statutes; if you don't allow us to create joinder or consent to acts and statutes it has about as much validity as a fly farting in space and cannot be a criminal offence under alleged law which requires us to consent as we haven't consented and never will; so your so called act and statute doesn't exist and nobody can be prosecuted under a law which doesn't exist.
Good point about protection, fortunately Common Law covers it all under harm, loss, or injury so you can already cover it with Common Law as it once was so there's no need for Acts and Statutes as you actually have more protection under Common Law than you ever can under Acts and Statutes. Remember acts and statutes are designed solely with the intention of relieving you of cash easily and cheaply.
Absolutely no need to apologise to me smshogun I find it sufficiently interesting to wait any amount of time for your explanations and opinions. |
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Post by colly0410 on Jun 2, 2015 5:42:05 GMT -5
[/quote]It's pretty hard Daz, it will render a kettle useless after a couple of years if you don't remove the buildup of lime in it. And it doesn't give a water heater a very long life. We were thinking of installing an "on demand" electric water heater, but chances are it's life would be very limited. I don't think we have a natural fluoride problem in this part of the country.
But it does make a good "cuppa". One day I'll get back into home brewing of beer.
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The water where I work (Queens Medical centre) is really hard (they've got their own borehole) & the water boilers & kettles are always liming up. My sister lives on Clifton estate & her kettle's always caked with lime, so her water must be hard. We in Hucknall with our moderately soft water have no problem at all with limescale. Think I've read somewhere that our tap water comes from a reservoir in Derbyshire fed by the river Derwent, so it's river water we're drinking. Tastes OK though..
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Post by John on Jun 2, 2015 16:39:19 GMT -5
It's pretty hard Daz, it will render a kettle useless after a couple of years if you don't remove the buildup of lime in it. And it doesn't give a water heater a very long life. We were thinking of installing an "on demand" electric water heater, but chances are it's life would be very limited. I don't think we have a natural fluoride problem in this part of the country.
But it does make a good "cuppa". One day I'll get back into home brewing of beer.
[/quote] The water where I work (Queens Medical centre) is really hard (they've got their own borehole) & the water boilers & kettles are always liming up. My sister lives on Clifton estate & her kettle's always caked with lime, so her water must be hard. We in Hucknall with our moderately soft water have no problem at all with limescale. Think I've read somewhere that our tap water comes from a reservoir in Derbyshire fed by the river Derwent, so it's river water we're drinking. Tastes OK though..[/quote] Didn't Hucknall used to get it's water from Newstead pumping station years back Steve??
I know one of these days I must get myself some brewing materials, and get back into home brewing beer, hard water is supposed to make the best bitters and pale ales.
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Post by dazbt on Jun 3, 2015 4:34:42 GMT -5
Mick/John
Not only do they fluoridate water they also add many other things such as the anti-psychotic drug lithium to name just one, this is in addition to the anti fertility drugs they add.
The social elite are in a quandary, they want a reduction in the worlds population of at least 20% which was confirmed from a leaked report from a Bilderberg meeting and of course they want to semi sedate the remaining population, hence the reason for fluoride (a known poison and toxin now banned in many US states) as fluoride covers up a lot of these other added drugs un water.
News, our FDA has stated fluoride, has done more harm than good and has brought in new regulations to limit the amount added to town water, just a fraction of what was being added, should be banned totally. Now even the ADA (Dentists trade union..LOL) has stated it doesn't protect teeth at all. WOW!! and now we have a full generation with teeth damaged by fluoride!! "Proper tea drinkers" are in the main convinced that using hard water does not make a good cup of tea ...................... but each to their own, I have heard people say that they actually enjoy drinking Mansfield Bitter, everything is subjective. Yorkshire Tea Company (would you believe who are based in Yorkshire, the place historically renowned for discerning tea drinkers and hard working coal miners) have actually developed a special tea mix which is especially for the use in hard water areas; www.yorkshiretea.co.uk/products/tea/yorkshire-tea-hard-water.phpThe other thing that I'm sure might surprise many people ( although I'm also sure that you will already be aware), is the fact that tea contains high levels of fluoride and drinking large quantities of the beverage can result in fluorosis, so what you don't get directly infiltrated into your drinking water you personally infuse in to it the very same poisonous, toxic substance. There is a slight advantage in that using your hard water to make the tea releases minimally smaller amounts of fluoride from the tea than does soft water, so it seems that you can either endure a poorly infused quality of tea or use soft water for a tastier cuppa but poison yourself a wee bit quicker in the process. “Tea is known to contain high concentrations of fluoride; tea consumption, therefore, can contribute significantly to total fluoride intake.” fluoridealert.org/studies/tea02/articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2005/02/09/fluoride-tea.aspxI await the contradictions ........................ lol. |
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Post by colly0410 on Jun 3, 2015 4:53:00 GMT -5
John... Been having a dig round: Hucknall water now comes from the Bamford treatment works, & that takes it's water from the Ladybower, Derwent & Howden dams in Derbyshire, & they're fed mostly by the river Derwent... Wonder when they stopped using the Newstead borehole?
Daz... As my water is moderately soft I suppose that means I'm being moderately poisoned as I love my tea.. I wonder what the difference is between the normal Yorkshire tea & the hard water version? Do you have hard or soft water?
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Post by John on Jun 3, 2015 5:22:44 GMT -5
Looks like I may have to change to coffee then. 
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Post by eleceng on Jul 25, 2015 9:39:57 GMT -5
Mick/John
Not only do they fluoridate water they also add many other things such as the anti-psychotic drug lithium to name just one, this is in addition to the anti fertility drugs they add.
The social elite are in a quandary, they want a reduction in the worlds population of at least 20% which was confirmed from a leaked report from a Bilderberg meeting and of course they want to semi sedate the remaining population, hence the reason for fluoride (a known poison and toxin now banned in many US states) as fluoride covers up a lot of these other added drugs un water. smshogun/john
We also have to put up with food addatives, such as aspartame, in so called sugar free drinks. I don't understand why they don't use stevia!
And what about "chem-trails". Just what are they spraying us with???
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Post by tygwyn on Jul 25, 2015 12:19:02 GMT -5
[/p] And what about "chem-trails". Just what are they spraying us with???
[/quote] Bull nutse. Cachi Tarw in Welsh,it won`t allow the English version,lol. |
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Post by John on Jul 25, 2015 14:18:05 GMT -5
[/p] And what about "chem-trails". Just what are they spraying us with???
[/quote] Bull nutse. Cachi Tarw in Welsh,it won`t allow the English version,lol. [/quote] Jim, there's allsorts of nasty stuff in vapour trails, do some research. High altitude cloud seeding is still carried out with several nasty chemicals, some land owners in a couple of our north west states that took soil samples from their lands and had them analyzed...I don't recall the chemicals that were found, but certainly not potash or ammonium nitrate.
The words you wanted are censored, by the site. |
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Post by eleceng on Jul 26, 2015 8:38:00 GMT -5
It's not Cachi tarw. Barium, Aluminium, rat poison, silica, human blood , to name 4 amongst others. Do some research. Chem-trails & HARRP.
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Post by dazbt on Jul 26, 2015 9:14:28 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jul 26, 2015 10:32:55 GMT -5
It's not Cachi tarw. Barium, Aluminium, rat poison, silica, human blood , to name 4 amongst others. Do some research. Chem-trails & HARRP. |
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