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Post by dazbt on May 1, 2013 1:30:34 GMT -5
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Post by tygwyn on May 1, 2013 3:15:54 GMT -5
Read an article a week or so back regarding an impending fine on UK coal,and them saying something on the lines ,they could`nt pay as their going into liquidation.
Sure this was in regard to one of their fatalities.
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Post by dazbt on May 1, 2013 3:59:58 GMT -5
yes I read that as well Jim hence the expected bit, what I hadn't really thought about was the failure to complete contracts and the knock on effects as a result of the massive shortfall. No doubt one or two foreign providers will be glad of 'bit of a boost' to their sales, meantime, UK energy providers such as France's EDF will have it covered and won't be losing out, at a knock on price rise to us all.
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Post by Wheldale on May 1, 2013 9:18:37 GMT -5
I see EDF did well with the Nuclear power station contract. They were the only company to place a bid. They will recieve 90 billion quid for the power produced over the life of the station then apparently when the station closes it will be handed over to the UK government and the tax payer will pick up the bill for decommissioning it. I reckon that will put the bills up too!
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Post by John on May 1, 2013 10:33:03 GMT -5
The problem with nuclear power is the public have been brainwashed about it's real up front costs. Nuclear power couldn't and wouldn't exist without huge government subsidies...
Ironic that the EU demands countries who subsidize coal cease the practice and yet without subsidies, nuclear power would not exist out of government built and owned reactors....
Due to safety, reactors cost money to run, then when they have finished their useful life they have to be decommissioned at huge costs.
Also ironic is the tree huggers condemn coal mining and support nuclear, where the hell do they think uranium comes from? Environmentally, it's one of the worlds worst toxic producing form of mineral mining. It poisons water courses, is extremely hazardous to those working underground, far worse than coal, on par if not leading asbestos mining as the most hazardous, and to finish, it has only a 40 year life at present rates of consumption.
Biggest hazards of all are nuclear accidents, well of course we ALL KNOW, it's the safest industry in the world.....Yeah right, how many accidents are actually reported to the public? The only ones we do hear about are the ones the industry cannot cover up, like Chernobyl, Three Mile Island and the Japanese one.
How many major accidents do we hear about in the thermal coal fired stations? I might have missed one, but I have never heard of any..
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Post by John on May 1, 2013 10:36:49 GMT -5
Here's a thought on nuclear, if it's so cheap, as governments have led us to believe, how come all the worlds ocean going ships aren't all powered by nuclear reactors? From recollection, there has only ever been one nuclear powered merchant marine ship in history, and that was a passenger liner way, way back...It proved too costly to run and was scrapped if my memory serves me right.
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Post by andyexplorer on May 6, 2013 3:36:40 GMT -5
It's funny 20 or 30 years ago we were told that nuclear power was so expensive that it would never turn a profit and thats why it's so heavily subsidised and yet we carry on with it unlike the Germans who have scrapped their nuclear programme and are now building another 25 coal powered fire stations to replace them
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Post by tygwyn on May 6, 2013 5:36:41 GMT -5
Lignite more than Coal,from their vast reserves,they have in the past,moved villages so to carry on operations.
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