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Post by dazbt on Mar 19, 2013 4:07:55 GMT -5
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Post by colly0410 on Mar 19, 2013 6:00:00 GMT -5
I was thinking "why is this not on the local news," then I thought "I've only seen mail boxes like that in America" &" never heard Nottingham called a Township." Then I twigged it's not here.. |
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Post by John on Mar 19, 2013 6:30:43 GMT -5
Chances of that happening in the City of Nottingham are 100% zero....LOL If you could get planning permission, which again would be 100% zero today, then there is the insurmountable costs of pumping more water than mining coal. There's a good paper on the water problem by the old NCB/BC.. It cost them millions every year to dewater the pits north of Nottingham, including the old Hucknall No2 Colliery, old Bestwood workings, Linby etc..
So if you spot any new coal mines opening in or around Nottingham, think USA.....LOL
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Post by colly0410 on Mar 19, 2013 14:00:49 GMT -5
Chances of that happening in the City of Nottingham are 100% zero....LOL If you could get planning permission, which again would be 100% zero today, then there is the insurmountable costs of pumping more water than mining coal. There's a good paper on the water problem by the old NCB/BC.. It cost them millions every year to dewater the pits north of Nottingham, including the old Hucknall No2 Colliery, old Bestwood workings, Linby etc..
So if you spot any new coal mines opening in or around Nottingham, think USA.....LOL[/quote Where I work (QMC on the Ring road / Derby road junction) they've got two boreholes for water supply, I wonder if any of it comes from old Clifton or Wollaton mine workings? If so I've drank gallons of it.... |
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Post by John on Mar 19, 2013 14:19:44 GMT -5
Chances of that happening in the City of Nottingham are 100% zero....LOL If you could get planning permission, which again would be 100% zero today, then there is the insurmountable costs of pumping more water than mining coal. There's a good paper on the water problem by the old NCB/BC.. It cost them millions every year to dewater the pits north of Nottingham, including the old Hucknall No2 Colliery, old Bestwood workings, Linby etc..
So if you spot any new coal mines opening in or around Nottingham, think USA.....LOL[/quote Where I work (QMC on the Ring road / Derby road junction) they've got two boreholes for water supply, I wonder if any of it comes from old Clifton or Wollaton mine workings? If so I've drank gallons of it....
Your water comes from the Sherwood aquifer, used to be called the Bunter Sandstone formation. The Castle sits on the outcrop.
There are no mine workings where you work, it's too close to the water bearing strata, nearest Cliftons workings to you were near Ruddington, Wollaton's last workings were under the University, stopping short of University Blvd.
About 400 yards due south of those Wollaton workings are Cliftons first workings with dates in the 1880's, there's a huge pillar left to the west of where Cliftons shafts used to be, under what would become the Wilford North Power station.
Clifton worked north under the Midland railway lines and towards the Midland Station.
After about the turn of the 20th century, Cliftons workings were south and south east, some workings go under West Bridgeford.
Last faces worked when I was there were 41's deep hard, almost to Cotgraves northern boundary, 12's deep hard, almost under Ruddington, 51's Tupton, almost to Cotgraves northern boundary, 51's and I think it was 52's at right angles to 51's M/G heading towards Ruddington and going under old 10's and 12's. |
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Post by John on Mar 19, 2013 14:22:42 GMT -5
I don't know if you know where Beeston Boiler Company used to be in Beeston, Mona Avenue I think, been a long time since I worked there. But they had several wells, all about 12 inch diameter bores, to supply the foundry plant.
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Post by colly0410 on Mar 19, 2013 15:30:55 GMT -5
Yeah I know Mona Rd Beeston, I used to go to the pub on the corner when my Wife worked in Beeston.
The water at work is very hard, it clogs up the tea boilers & some patients refuse to drink it, so the shop makes a bomb flogging bottled water. I drink it though, not paying through the nose for bottled stuff. Our water at home comes from somewhere in Derbyshire & is fairly soft, the kettle never furs up..
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Post by John on Mar 19, 2013 15:45:56 GMT -5
Yeah I know Mona Rd Beeston, I used to go to the pub on the corner when my Wife worked in Beeston. The water at work is very hard, it clogs up the tea boilers & some patients refuse to drink it, so the shop makes a bomb flogging bottled water. I drink it though, not paying through the nose for bottled stuff. Our water at home comes from somewhere in Derbyshire & is fairly soft, the kettle never furs up..
Yep Nottm water has always had a reputation for being hard, makes good beer though!!! Shipstones, when they were going, used bore water from the Bunter.
My well water comes through limestone, it's hard, should see our kettle, great tasting water too, one of these days I'll get back into home brewing beer. |
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Post by John on Mar 19, 2013 16:05:58 GMT -5
This was as far south west Clifton worked. And this is as far north west as Clifton worked, the workings to the north are Wollaton's And this shows the furthest west Wollaton worked, note the old workings on Bramcote Moor.
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Post by colly0410 on Mar 19, 2013 18:37:56 GMT -5
Yup I can see from the maps that nothing was worked under QMC.
I remember the discussions about which was the best beer, I liked Mansfield & Bass bitter, my Dad liked Home stout & Mackesons stout & Mam liked Pyms no1 & Babycham (yuk, lol.) My Dad made some home made stout, it was nice but I had a thudding head afterwards..
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Post by bulwellbrian on Mar 20, 2013 6:18:04 GMT -5
Best place to site a new coal mine in Nottingham is right in the middle of the Old Market Square in front of the Council House!!!! There must be coal there. You could take the coal away by tram!
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Post by John on Mar 20, 2013 7:58:50 GMT -5
Best place to site a new coal mine in Nottingham is right in the middle of the Old Market Square in front of the Council House!!!! There must be coal there. You could take the coal away by tram!
I heard tales, when I worked at Clifton, that the colliery had worked under a good part of central Nottingham "on the quiet" at the turn of the 20th century, there was an office fire at a time this was being investigated... Now remember back then, the colliery were working Bord and Pillar, so little if any subsidence would have taken place...
How true the tales were could not then or now be substantiated, but I wouldn't put it passed the old mine owners taking coal they weren't supposed to take.. |
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Post by colly0410 on Mar 20, 2013 8:59:17 GMT -5
I heard a rumour that a certain mine owner had permission to work board & pillar under sensitive parts of Nottingham. The naughty Boy then robbed the pillars & sealed of the areas to hide the evidence. Not sure if true but wouldn't surprise me...
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Post by John on Mar 20, 2013 9:11:10 GMT -5
The abandonment plans for deep hard show workings in the late 1800's extending under the main railway martialling yards to the west of the Midland Station, I don't have the Deep Soft plans, but all workings to the north and north east had finished by the 1920's, officially that is......... 
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Post by bulwellbrian on Mar 20, 2013 11:31:24 GMT -5
i know that Radford colliery only had a downcast shaft and relied on Wollaton for ventilation, but do you know if they worked any coal to the east towards the city centre?
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Post by John on Mar 20, 2013 11:55:27 GMT -5
i know that Radford colliery only had a downcast shaft and relied on Wollaton for ventilation, but do you know if they worked any coal to the east towards the city centre?
Didn't all their coal go to Wollatons shafts?? |
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Post by bulwellbrian on Mar 20, 2013 13:21:05 GMT -5
i know that Radford colliery only had a downcast shaft and relied on Wollaton for ventilation, but do you know if they worked any coal to the east towards the city centre?
Didn't all their coal go to Wollatons shafts??No. Radford wound its own coal. There was no washery just a set of screens. In the late 1950's and early 1960's the run of mine was screened at 1.5" the smalls then went to power stations and the +1.5" was taken by rail to Linby colliery and added to the feed to the washery there. Radford was working the Tupton seam. When the pit was sunk there were less housing around it. |
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