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Post by John on Jun 28, 2007 9:31:04 GMT -5
Although the list is longer from nationalisation I have C&P'd this list from Wikipedia. I'll compile the complete list from 1947 as soon as I find it.
* Acton Hall 1985 * Allerton Bywater 1994 * Askern 1991 * Barnburgh 1989 * Barnsley Main 1991 [had originally closed in 1966, but reopened to transfer workforce from defunct 'Barrow' pit in 1985] * Bentley 1993 * Brodsworth 1990 * Brookhouse 1985 * Bullcliffe Wood 1985 (merged with Denby Grange) * Cadeby & Denaby 1986 * Caphouse 1985 (merged with Denby Grange) Still "open" as the National Coal Mining Museum * Cortonwood 1985 * Darfield 1989 (merged with Houghton) * Dearne Valley 1991 * Denby Grange 1991 * Dinnington 1991 * Dodworth 1987 (between 1985-7, only Redbrook shaft operated - known as 'Redbrook Colliery') * Emley Moor 1985 * Ferrymoor 1985 (merged with South Kirkby) * Frickley/South Elmsall 1993 * Fryston 1985 * Gascoigne Wood* 2004 * Glasshoughton 1986 * Goldthorpe 1994 * Grimethorpe 1992 * Hatfield 2004 [Previously closed in 1993 and in 2001 but reopened both times.] * Hickleton 1986 (merged with Goldthorpe) * Houghton 1992 * Kellingley still open * Kilnhurst 1989 * Kinsley 1986 * Kiveton Park 1994 * Ledston Luck 1986 * Maltby still open * Manvers Main 1988 * Markham Main 1992. There is also a colliery just called 'Markham', which is in Derbyshire * Newmarket Silkstone 1983 * North Gawber 1985 (merged with Woolley) * North Selby* 1999 * Nostell 1987 * Park Mill 1989 * Prince of Wales 2002 * Riccall* 2004 * Rossington 2006 * Royston 1989 * Saville (at Normanton) 1985 (often confused with the 'Savile & Shawcross Colliery', which had closed in 1968} * Sharlston 1993 * Silverwood 1994 (merged with Maltby) * South Kirkby 1988 * Stillingfleet* 2004 * Thurcroft 1991 * Treeton 1990 * Wath 1986 (merged with Manvers) * Wheldale 1987 * Whitemoor*1998 * Wistow* 2004 * Woolley 1987 * Yorkshire Main 1985
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Post by Mick on Apr 26, 2008 11:36:47 GMT -5
Gomersal 1973,still hand filling when closed.
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Post by dazbt on May 5, 2008 13:16:18 GMT -5
Emley Moor Colliery, which is on John's list, closed in 1985 and they were still Longwall handfilling at that time.
New Millerdam Colliery, which isn't on John's list closed in 1981 and as far as I recall that was still an 'handgot' pit as well.
As an aside, I worked on building a shearer which had been spec. designed by Barnsley Area Coalface Engineering Dept for Emley Moor's first intended Longwall mechanised face around 1967 'ish, a single ended BJD (I think), with a 2" clearance base plate, which by neccesity had to be made from a single length steel plate. The final machine assembly was presented to an entourage of Area and Group Engineers along with the pit engineer and his deputy, at Shafton workshops, the lorry to transport this machine and the crane to lift it had been arranged and were standing by to do so, as they all walked around this 'Thin Seam Shearer Assembly', all admiring the subtle lines, the way that this machine had been envisaged, designed, spec'd., and built to cut coal in a section previously thought to be too thin to shear, when the deputy mech engineer spoilt it all by asking the simple question; "Arr the 'flipping heck' are we going to get a baseplate that length in our pit, we haven't a roadway that's straight enough to get it 100 yards out of the drift bottom?" ................ so Emley kept going, handfilling, much to the delight of the colliers who were earning five times more than Power Loading rates at the time.
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Post by John on Jun 15, 2008 16:39:19 GMT -5
Rossington Colliery Youtube video of still photographs.
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Post by John on Jun 15, 2008 16:44:19 GMT -5
Goldthorpe Colliery Video.
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Post by Mick on Jun 25, 2008 11:59:54 GMT -5
Emley Moor was Mechanised in 1980 in the Whinmoor seam. Mick
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Post by dazbt on Jun 28, 2008 14:13:56 GMT -5
Emley Moor was Mechanised in 1980 in the Whinmoor seam. Mick Thanks for that Mick, do you know if there was handfilled panel being worked at the same time? I gather now that the machine being used at Emley in the latter years was a BJD Buttock Shearer, I reckon that there couldn't have been many of those around any idea how successfull it was?
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Post by Mick on Jun 28, 2008 15:53:22 GMT -5
dazbt,dont know if they were still hand filling whe it closed. I alway though that the pit i worked at Gomersal was the last one to still be hand filling when it closed,but i could be wrong. Emley Moor was using a BJD D65 buttock shearer,but dont know how good it was. Mick
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Post by John on Jun 28, 2008 17:07:18 GMT -5
Emley Moor was Mechanised in 1980 in the Whinmoor seam. Mick Thanks for that Mick, do you know if there was handfilled panel being worked at the same time? I gather now that the machine being used at Emley in the latter years was a BJD Buttock Shearer, I reckon that there couldn't have been many of those around any idea how successfull it was? BJD's weren't the best made machines around Daz, notorious for shearing motor shafts. In all the time I was overhauling motors I never saw one AB motor shaft sheared, but it seemed every other one that came in our shop of BJD's had one side shaft sheared, windings were ok though. I don't know if they ever corrected that problem.
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Post by inbye on Jun 29, 2008 14:10:21 GMT -5
Shuttle Eye was a hand filling pit.........pretty sure it closed in '73...
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Post by dazbt on Jul 4, 2008 3:20:07 GMT -5
Found a photograph of a gentleman collier by the name of Reuben Kenworthy using a 'peggy' in a hand filled section of the Beeston seam at Emley, taken in 1983, the section was 16". Photo published in a book "Yorkshire Miners" by Brian Elliott, part of a collection Britain in Old Photographs.
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Post by John on Jul 17, 2008 12:35:37 GMT -5
Here's an interesting chart from 1987.
Colliery Daily output per face in Tonnes Output per man per shift Output per per year per face* Cost per Gigajoule Manton 2143 4.73 643000 1.28 Goldthorpe/Hickleton 1732 6.39 520000 1.17 Maltby 1592 4.63 478000 1.29 Rossington 1436 4.16 430000 1.31 Silverwood 1436 3.78 430000 1.43 Dinnington 1435 3.68 430000 1.84 Brodsworth 1320 3.05 396000 1.69 Shireoaks 1295 4.00 388000 1.62 Bentley 1266 4.22 380000 1.81 Thurcroft 1253 3.50 376000 1.38 Manvers Complex 1218 1.99 365000 2.36 High Moor 1121 5.35 366000 1.52 Frickley 1059 4.16 318000 1.74 Kiveton Park 1021 3.61 306000 1.75 Barnburgh 1004 2.78 301000 1.73 Hatfield/Thorne 943 2.19 283000 2.73 Markham Main 936 1.96 281000 2.45 Askern 804 4.01 241000 1.63 Treeton 582 2.02 175000 2.55 Total 7.1 million tonnes
I'll tidy it up a bit later, it didn't come out as copied.
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Post by Mick on Jul 29, 2008 4:16:12 GMT -5
Hi lads,Need abit of help here anyone Know of these 2 pits. Parkgate and Stubbin Colliery or were they the same pit? Mick.
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Post by dazbt on Jul 29, 2008 4:46:51 GMT -5
Hi lads,Need abit of help here anyone Know of these 2 pits. Parkgate and Stubbin Colliery or were they the same pit? Mick. Off the top of my head ................ but I will search the facts out (if I can find them) later; There were two Stubbin Collieries originally Top Stubbin and sometime early 1900s a New Stubbin was sunk and replaced the earlier one. The New Stubbin worked at least through the 1960s and probably into the 70s. Aldwarke Colliery was another pit, possibly two miles away (?), this pit was split into two units one of which was called the Parkgate Colliery. I will try to find out more.
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Post by Mick on Jul 29, 2008 5:02:30 GMT -5
Hi dazbt your a star,I have a mate who is trying to find any info about 2 locos that worked there. He wants to find out wot happend to them,as he wants to make a model of the pit.
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Post by dazbt on Jul 29, 2008 9:16:48 GMT -5
Hi dazbt your a star,I have a mate who is trying to find any info about 2 locos that worked there. He wants to find out wot happend to them,as he wants to make a model of the pit. I've had a scrounge through a few books and found a couple of photos of New Stubbin pit top buildings, neither very exotic but just might help with the pit top modelling. The locos I haven't anything on, but a Google with the words New Stubbin Loco provides a few links and some Loco numbers, it seems that one of them at least is a link to photos of Stubbin Locos. Colliery Locos aren't exactly something that I've really had an interest in but I do know from the number of times whilst searching websites for particular colliery names I've 'tripped up' over many websites that follow colliery loco history, that there has to be something out there to help your mate. Does he have any details of the Locos, names or numbers? Aldwarke Main sunk/started production 1865, closed in 1961. New Stubbin sunk 1917 and closed 1978. both in the Rotherham, Rawmarsh area of South Yorkshire.
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Post by Mick on Jul 29, 2008 10:30:20 GMT -5
Thanks for that dazbt,I have the numbers of the locos Hudswell Clarkes 0-6-0 Number 34 and 37 the same maker. Thanks Mick.
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Post by dazbt on Jul 29, 2008 15:56:56 GMT -5
Thanks for that dazbt,I have the numbers of the locos Hudswell Clarkes 0-6-0 Number 34 and 37 the same maker. Thanks Mick. I spent a couple of hours this afternoon trying to teach myself the gentle art of internet trainspotting, I think I've either read about or seem pictures of most of the 1,800 and odd locos that were identified as being manufactured by Hudswell Clarke, except for the two that your friend is looking for, numbers 34 and 37 The only mention that I have seen simply confirms what your friend already knows, that both locos were in service at New Stubbin some time in their lives. "Its last steam locomotives were two examples built by Hudswell Clarke & Co. of Leeds; No. 34 was an outside cylinder, six-coupled side tank locomotive, works No.1523, built in 1925, and delivered new to the Appleby-Frodingham Steel Company in Sthingyhorpe, which came to the line in the 1950s; and No. 37, an outside cylinder, six-coupled saddle tank. They worked until the mid-1960s when the line became fully dieselised, Hudswell Clarke again supplying the power.Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Fitzwilliam%27s_private_railway" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Fitzwilliam's_private_railway There is a Railway Preservation Group based at the nearby Elsecar Heritage Centre (Earl Fitzwilliams original Colliery Workshops that served all his mines including Stubbin), it may well be that this band of enthusiasts could well hold some record of these locos, worth a try perhaps. 01226 746746 www.elsecarrailway.co.nr/Elsecar Railway Preservation Group, Elsecar Heritage Centre, Wath Road, Elsecar, Barnsley, S74 8HJ
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Post by Mick on Jul 29, 2008 16:18:00 GMT -5
Thank you very much dazbt,It looks like thats as much info he will get. He did try finding out some info from Elsecar but had no luck,I think they must have been broke up at Elsecar workshops or sold for scrap. Mick
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Post by Mick on Jul 30, 2008 14:33:19 GMT -5
dazbt sorry to pester you again but could you tell me the names of the books you saw the pics in of new stubbin colliery please. Mick
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Post by dazbt on Jul 30, 2008 15:39:17 GMT -5
dazbt sorry to pester you again but could you tell me the names of the books you saw the pics in of new stubbin colliery please. Mick "The South Yorkshire Coalfield, a history and development" by Alan Hill ISBN 0-7524-1747-9 Page 79 the photo taken in 1980 "Yorkshire Miners" part of 'Britain in Old Photographs' series by Brian Elliott ISBN 0-7509-2999-5 Page 120 photo believed taken around 1920 What about contacting Caphouse NCMM, they do allow public access to their vast library source for research and I have always found the people there very helpfull (although I haven't been in touch with them for a couple of years). I believe that there are several 'library' sections there, one dealing with the actual books, one with oral history and a third who deals specifically with the technical records relating to plant and machinery, there is a fair chance that some reference to the Stubbin locos is archived there. Curatorial Librarians can be contacted by email; curatorial.librarian@ncm.org.uk Click below to access their Library opening times plus a link to all their listed library material (there may be more than the list shows, if you talk to them nicely); www.ncm.org.uk/library.asp
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Post by rhonddalad on Sept 14, 2008 10:36:40 GMT -5
Emley Moor
Item taken from the Coal News-January 1983:-
'There are only 14 handfilled faces left in Britain's highly mechanised mines and the number will shortly drop to 13 - all in the North East and Scotland - when Yorkshire's last pick-and-shovel face at Emley Moor Colliery comes to the end of its life.
That day will be in April when the coalfields smallest pit sunk in the 1820's install their first power loader in the thick Whinmoor seam which they have just developed. On Emley's last handfilling face, Beeston Y20's facemen take about a five inch undercut in the dirt band below the seam and gum fill straight into the gob. It is a 'double' face stretching a total of 255 metres, with two tail gates and one main gate. One man , working for the most part on his back drills up to 80 holes in one shift with his compressed air borer using two drill rods.
Said Colliery Manager Len Fox: "Because Beeston is a very good quality coal - only three to four per cent ash - we can command a price that has helped to keep the pit alive financially despite having to handfill. Once the mechanised face starts in the inferior quality Whinmoor, we've got to increase output from 2,500 to 3,500 tonnes a week saleable" '
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Post by erichall on Sept 18, 2010 9:45:41 GMT -5
Seems as though someone forgot about the mines in the old South Barnsley Area. These included: Barrow, Rockingham, Hoyland Silkstone, Wharncliffe Silkstone (Pilley), Barley Hall, Skiers Spring Drift, Wombwell Main ( a colliery whose headstocks were offset from the winder) Carlton Main/Frickley, and Thorpe Hesley.
Among these, Wharncliffe Silkstone and Carlton Main/Frickley had Championship Class Brass bands, whilst Barrow also had an excellent band.
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Post by emleymick on Jul 17, 2012 13:41:25 GMT -5
Having worked at Emley Moor myself I can confirm it went mechanised in the Whinmoor seam around 1980/81. The last handfilled face was ironically Z11 in the Whinmoor seam. the machine which had been designed was not ready or delivered so we handfilled Z11 while installing Z01 with the BJD I believe.
Anybody want to know anything else about Emley Moor?
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Post by Wheldale on Jul 17, 2012 14:25:52 GMT -5
Why did Emley close? Lack of reserves? And when it did close was it fully mechanised or was there still some hand got faces? Also, how far did the workings extend?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
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Post by emleymick on Jul 17, 2012 17:49:12 GMT -5
Emley Moor closed as a result of the Thatcher closure program. It was fully mechanised in the Wihmoor seam at the time of closure which was at the end of 1985. I believe there were more reserves in the Whinmoor but the seam became thinner and the quality was poor outside the licensed block given to the mine.
I was always told that there was another thin seam available but it could only be worked by hand due to the seam thickess. This was the Halifax Hards,but because of poor quality and no market there was no viability under British Coals criteria to develop it.
Prior to mechanisation in the Whinmoor seam, the last hand filling face was Z11 in the Whinmoor and before that, Y21 in the Speedwell area of the Beeston seam which was accessed directly opposite to the downcast shaft. The workings extended out towards Flockton and butted up to the old Grange Ash Colliery which had at one time been linked I believe to Shuttle Eye Colliery.
In the opposite direction to Flockton , towards Skelmanthorpe where our coal was processed there was just a very low coal road and means of egress at the Skemanthorpe adit. There was another means of egress between the Emley Moor downcast shaft and Skelmanthorpe adit, this was the Nine Clogs drift. it was a sight to see dirty men in pit clothes and with lamps walking back along the road to the pit baths when the downcast shaft was out of action.
My dad stayed on the assist with the sealing etc but I moved to Grimethorpe Colliery on a transfer. It is said that when Emley Moor closed there were some 18 or more openings around the surrounding countryside which had to be either slushed of filled.
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Post by Wheldale on Jul 18, 2012 14:46:59 GMT -5
How deep was the shaft at Emley? And what was the yearly production? Emley interests me, I lived for a time not far away in Kirkburton.
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Post by emleymick44 on Jul 19, 2012 7:18:54 GMT -5
The main downcast shaft at Emley Moor was about 128 yards (390 feet). The return air (Upcast) came up a drift which was just off the vertical in the top corner of the pit yard.
You travelled to both the Beeston and Whinmoor seams down the belt manrider in the Beeston drift. To access the Whinmoor you went down a further short drift which came off Y08 left hand tailgate level ,which was known as the "Back Gate". You could also access the Whinmoor at the return end, which was short drift off the old Beeston Y04 main gate. All return air went out via the old Blocking seam drift and then up the old paddy road to the vertical drift at the back of the main downcast.
Emley Moor had the paddy road because at one time it was linked up through the Bently dip to Park Mill Colliery for ventilation purposes.
I would say the Beeston seam workings lay at about 550ft and the Whinmoor at about 600 ft.
The average annual Beeston output from handfilling would have been between 180000 and 250000 tonnes because we always worked one full coal face every day and the spare face turned over maybe 2 or 3 days at most per week.
The mechanised Whinmoor had just one face and average annual output would have been between 390000 and 450000 tonnes.
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Post by dazbt on Jul 19, 2012 9:03:48 GMT -5
Any more details about the BJD Buttock shearer Mick? One of the reasons I ask is that I believe it was installed in 48" and can't help wondering why that machine configuration was chosen. Any chance that you are related to Haydn Barrett by the way?
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Post by emleymick on Jul 19, 2012 12:19:29 GMT -5
The British Jeffrey Diamond B61 Buttock Shearer was installed on the first mechanised face in the Whinmoor which if I remember correctly was Z01. The average seam thickness in the Whinmoor was about 48". The shearer was chain driven and the chain was handled by Beechdale tensioner at both Main gate and Tail gate ends. The machine was designed for thin seam and although not specifically for Emley Moor, we were the test bed and if we could make it work, it would be just the ticket for the likes of Ireland (Derbyshire) and Dearne Valley (South Yorks) who also had thin to medium seams.
It was an inweb shearer and not panzer (AFC) mounted so it was ideal for the Whinmoor.
Although not many of us had seen a shearer and chocks before, as miners do, we took to it like a duck to water. Its sure easier that breaking in to 18 yard plus of Beeston and loading it on your side with a shovel.
No i am not related to Haydn Barrett.
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