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Post by John on Feb 20, 2014 15:40:55 GMT -5
Smshogun When I was at Moorgreen TC I can't remember seeing any loco's down there, was they ever used at that pit?....Also any other pits that didn't use loco's underground? I don't think many of the older pits had locos Steve, many worked through faults and different seams pre horizon mining, so most inclines were too steep for loco transport. I know at Clifton, it was always endless rope haulages due to the up hill down dales roads. Cotgrave drove their three main roads in the Deep Soft coal horizon, so was perfectly suited to loco haulage, although when I was there in 1968, there was talk of installing monorail haulages to replace the diesel locos. All gate road supplies were on mono rails due to bad floor lift.
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Post by smshogun on Feb 21, 2014 13:38:47 GMT -5
Moorgreen has an old loco road from the downcast pit bottom along with a loco shed and a tippler site for wagons to be tipped for the skips; these were replaced when they drove the adit and the loco's were stripped for spares and sold to other collieries, the old tippler site remained until the last couple of years until we had the awful job of stripping it out. We had to apply for an exemption to take burning tackle into the pit bottom and burn most of it out, obviously it was the usual gas readings 24 hours before at hourly intervals, three weeks of prep for fireproofing everything, and a M&Q Inspector with us at all times.
Very few men went into this part of the pit, but it was the main air intake for the pit, and remember the upcast shaft was the main manriding shaft and not the downcast shaft as deployment was in the upcast shaft pit bottom. When you wen't through the pit bottom and through the airlock doors you turned left from deployment to go inbye, if you turned right and went through the next set of air doors you came to the downcast pit bottom, if you went around the other side of the shaft it led you to the old loco road.
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Post by quimbyj1745 on Nov 6, 2014 11:46:29 GMT -5
Smshogun When I was at Moorgreen TC I can't remember seeing any loco's down there, was they ever used at that pit?....Also any other pits that didn't use loco's underground? I don't think many of the older pits had locos Steve, many worked through faults and different seams pre horizon mining, so most inclines were too steep for loco transport. I know at Clifton, it was always endless rope haulages due to the up hill down dales roads. Cotgrave drove their three main roads in the Deep Soft coal horizon, so was perfectly suited to loco haulage, although when I was there in 1968, there was talk of installing monorail haulages to replace the diesel locos. All gate road supplies were on mono rails due to bad floor lift.
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Post by quimbyj1745 on Nov 6, 2014 12:29:05 GMT -5
Circular roadways are not new to NCB pits. I first went to Haunchwood pit in 1963 and the main loco rd to the Ansley end of the pit was badly affected by heavy roof pressure to the extent that loco clearances were very poor. It was decided to back rip the whole length using small segmented concrete blocks to a full circular pattern. The blocks were first laid in the floor and then placed on wooden formers to complete a full circle. The blocks were about 12" thick by 12"wide and 12" on the inside face. A compression pad cut from old conveyer belt was placed between blocks. I went back to the pit in 1966 as undermanager and the loco road was transformed from a 6ft high single track rd to a double track road for the full 1 1/2 mile length. There was no need for any repair work. In the 1980s I was deputy manager at Cadley Hill colliery in South Derbyshire at the time that Bretby completed the circular tunnelling machine and we had a place for it.We installed it and drove it 1000 metres in hard rock and the last 400 metres in a full 14ft Main Coal section. Unfortunately the sulpher content in the coal was found to be too high and the project abandoned. The coal reserves in this area are very high and they are still there. A paper was presented to the Institute of Mining Engineers Kent Branch on this topic, if anyone has a copy I would love to see it again.
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Post by John on Nov 6, 2014 17:10:05 GMT -5
Circular roadways are not new to NCB pits. I first went to Haunchwood pit in 1963 and the main loco rd to the Ansley end of the pit was badly affected by heavy roof pressure to the extent that loco clearances were very poor. It was decided to back rip the whole length using small segmented concrete blocks to a full circular pattern. The blocks were first laid in the floor and then placed on wooden formers to complete a full circle. The blocks were about 12" thick by 12"wide and 12" on the inside face. A compression pad cut from old conveyer belt was placed between blocks. I went back to the pit in 1966 as undermanager and the loco road was transformed from a 6ft high single track rd to a double track road for the full 1 1/2 mile length. There was no need for any repair work. In the 1980s I was deputy manager at Cadley Hill colliery in South Derbyshire at the time that Bretby completed the circular tunnelling machine and we had a place for it.We installed it and drove it 1000 metres in hard rock and the last 400 metres in a full 14ft Main Coal section. Unfortunately the sulpher content in the coal was found to be too high and the project abandoned. The coal reserves in this area are very high and they are still there. A paper was presented to the Institute of Mining Engineers Kent Branch on this topic, if anyone has a copy I would love to see it again. Cotgrave is the only mine I've worked in that used 20 foot full circulars, in fact the last two mines I worked in didn't even use rings of any sort, just bolts, props and bars and "W" straps.
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Post by smshogun on Nov 13, 2014 21:31:40 GMT -5
John:
Mick Wolvin stayed at Cotgrave and when the option of early retirement was announced he took it, from what I remember he was looking to move away from Cotgrave and buy something abroad to run a small business.
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Post by John on Nov 14, 2014 7:12:25 GMT -5
John:
Mick Wolvin stayed at Cotgrave and when the option of early retirement was announced he took it, from what I remember he was looking to move away from Cotgrave and buy something abroad to run a small business. Mick was one of the junior engineers when I worked there in 68. He originally came from Bestwood where he got his electricians ticket, then when Bestwood closed he was transferred to Cotgrave. Eric Drury was the elec engineer in charge at that time.
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Post by smshogun on Nov 15, 2014 7:54:25 GMT -5
Had time to rack the memory banks, Mick Wolvin was assistant, Mike Need was electrical engineer for many years, a nice man if you could engage him in conversation and he could talk for hours, deputy was Mick Newton who came from N. Notts mine, and John Morley who was deputy electrical at Moorgreen who moved to area IT projects than as deputy electrical at Cotgrave.
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Post by John on Nov 15, 2014 9:26:17 GMT -5
Had time to rack the memory banks, Mick Wolvin was assistant, Mike Need was electrical engineer for many years, a nice man if you could engage him in conversation and he could talk for hours, deputy was Mick Newton who came from N. Notts mine, and John Morley who was deputy electrical at Moorgreen who moved to area IT projects than as deputy electrical at Cotgrave. The only name I know there is Mick's, I was only at Cotgrave to complete my apprenticeship after being transferred from Clifton on it's closure. I hated Cotgrave, too rigid was like a prison. I didn't like Eric Drury either, although he did stand by his men unless they did something wrong. I was on Denelly(sp) Pickering's crew, he was the chargehand electrician, he had an ex Wollaton Colliery assistant, can't recall his name now, but a big blonde haired electrician in his 40's. Den is long gone now, I caught up with his nephew , who has a Phd and is a Derbyshire historian, who told me Den had passed on. He told me some interesting facts of when Den was a young bloke, he had the nickname of "Red" partly because of his hair colour and partly because of his temper. Although I never saw that side of him, maybe he had mellowed by the time I worked with him. Some of my mates served the electrical apprenticeships at Cotgrave the same time as myself, Johnny Booth, Bill "Lou" Blair and Barry "Clem" Clements, Clem and Lou worked there until the pit closed.
Another old mate who passed on a few years back who served his apprenticeship there and as an electrician was Trev Shaw. He started there during shaft sinking. He transferred to Clifton a couple of years before it was closed, then moved on to Calverton I believe.
What years were you at Cotgrave??
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Post by smshogun on Nov 16, 2014 12:02:53 GMT -5
I used to go around many pits when I headed special projects, that was nationally if we had prototype equipment in for working evaluation.
Here's one for you, the old grey matter has been working overtime.
Brian Payne - formerly of Clifton Colliery who trained as a mech - elec at Clifton then transferred to Cotgrave where he was an electrician.
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Post by John on Nov 16, 2014 13:24:42 GMT -5
I used to go around many pits when I headed special projects, that was nationally if we had prototype equipment in for working evaluation.
Here's one for you, the old grey matter has been working overtime.
Brian Payne - formerly of Clifton Colliery who trained as a mech - elec at Clifton then transferred to Cotgrave where he was an electrician. No, doesn't ring a bell. Here's a list of Clifton elecs I recall, Lol Adcock, Elec Engineer in Charge, Russ Claxton, his Deputy engineer, Bill and Tom Shaw, elecs, Arthur Cluroe and Don Church, elecs on the surface, known as AC and DC, Dave Smith, elec, Alan Dixon elec, Dave George elec, started his own contracting business after closure. Alan Starr elec, killed in a motor cycle accident, liked his beer. Ken Goodhall night shift elec chargehand. Dave Watson assistant nightshift elec chargehand. Pete Harrison, workshop elec on days.Terry Lacey afters chargehand elec. Doug Brompton, elec. Arthur Asquith surface elec. Ernie Gerrard elec. Bob Grainger assistant elec engineer in charge. Bill Smith elec. Maurice "Mo" Morley elec, he migrated to Rhodesia. Fred Matterson elec surface workshops. Bill Lucas surafe workshop elec...I know I must have missed a few, like the dayshift workshop foreman, name eludes me.
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Post by smshogun on Nov 17, 2014 14:15:11 GMT -5
Surface workshop was Don Parsons when I started going there, from what I was told he took early retirement and died within a year of retirement. He also has a guy called John Howitt working with him.
Dave George was an underground electrician who came out onto the surface late in the life of the colliery, not sure why??? but I do remember him and he was a nice guy with a good sense of humour.
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Post by John on Nov 17, 2014 14:55:37 GMT -5
Surface workshop was Don Parsons when I started going there, from what I was told he took early retirement and died within a year of retirement. He also has a guy called John Howitt working with him.
Dave George was an underground electrician who came out onto the surface late in the life of the colliery, not sure why??? but I do remember him and he was a nice guy with a good sense of humour. Dave George was only in his 30's when Clifton closed, when I had done my 20 days cps, I was sent to work with Dave on 12's face, he'd have been late twenties then. On that shift was Dave George, feller I can't put a name to on 51's and Bill Shaw on 41's.
I don't recall a Don Parsons or John Howitt, they weren't there from when I started until closure, 1963-1968. I signed on around March of 63, when I was 18 I went on regular nights as I couldn't get out of bed of a morning on days, I came back on shifts just after Christmas of 1967 to get used to shifts prior to being transferred to Cotgrave, around March of 1968.
Dave George's son married the Daughter of a friend of mine, Frank Blair, who worked at Clifton from around 1950 to 1960, Frank was an electrician there, then left to work at J.Jones Electric, same place I went to work when I left Cotgrave. Frank's Dad was an outbye worker who retired after the pit closed, used to drink at a pub down Arkwright Street in those days, so drank with Frank senior and Frank Junior, in fact Frank junior and myself were on the darts team together.
One of the reasons I didn't like Cotgrave was it was a large mine, hardly knew anyone and it was run by the book. Clifton, being an old colliery had many Father and Sons, Uncles etc, it was a Joy to work there, plenty of comradeship. I did stop going into the Welfare though, even though they pulled a good pint and it was cheap, too much coal produced in there...LOLCorrection, I started in 1964 not 63, I was 16 1/2 when I signed my indentures, I really should have applied before I left school, I'd have done that first year course from 15 to 16 then, and started the elec tech from 16 to 21, or as it changed 16-20 on the new four year apprenticeships, with the practical trade test to complete it.
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Post by cortonwood on Nov 17, 2014 15:50:56 GMT -5
Cortonwood didnt have any loco's,all haulage was by rope.
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Post by colly0410 on Nov 18, 2014 7:03:20 GMT -5
Moorgreen has an old loco road from the downcast pit bottom along with a loco shed and a tippler site for wagons to be tipped for the skips; these were replaced when they drove the adit and the loco's were stripped for spares and sold to other collieries, the old tippler site remained until the last couple of years until we had the awful job of stripping it out. /p]
Very few men went into this part of the pit, but it was the main air intake for the pit, and remember the upcast shaft was the main manriding shaft and not the downcast shaft as deployment was in the upcast shaft pit bottom. When you wen't through the pit bottom and through the airlock doors you turned left from deployment to go inbye, if you turned right and went through the next set of air doors you came to the downcast pit bottom, if you went around the other side of the shaft it led you to the old loco road. Was the old loco road at the Piper/Waterloo seams inset/landing or the Low Main pit bottom? I only went to the low main pit bottom once as our training gallery was in the old Piper seam workings, & when we went on face visits it was always in the Waterloo seam, usually 66's. (1968)
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Post by smshogun on Nov 18, 2014 23:20:57 GMT -5
Low Main, from the pit bottom (downcast shaft) you travelled along the pit bottom run, you went right along to the manrider and down the manrider which was an endless haulage, or you could ride down a belt running parallel to the manrider to the Knife Edge, here they drove a drift down to Blackshale and severed the old roadway, but it remained and was used as a water lodge.
During manriding times everyone rode the belt and the manrider only travelled up the drift to the Knife Edge, loaded, and inbye.
You went through a set of air doors and turned left, here was another manrider, take it and you went up the East side, walk past it and turn left onto the M1 and another manrider took you to the North side.
East side had all the air and produced little coal, you could take one cut and its bone dry, take another cut and water pissed in and it was bloody cold with them having all the air.
North side was where all the action was, little air and turned all the coal, it was that hot that men coming from the East side regularly passed out with the heat but we were used to it; they paid everyone double water money, yes, double water money and double heat money as technically it was always too hot to work down that side and we ripped coal out.
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Post by colly0410 on Nov 19, 2014 6:01:40 GMT -5
Interesting how one side got all the air & the other side didn't.... The only time I went to Low Main pit bottom was when we got on the cage at Piper inset to come up & we went down instead, the onsetter shouted "everyone off", then the cage went up empty. We then all piled on the other cage & came up, whizzing past the Piper inset without stopping, never knew why we did that.... When I visited 66's face in the Waterloo seam we went on a manriding belt up a drift from the Piper seam to the bottom of the surface drift, then on a rope manrider along an intake. We then went through some doors onto the (very dusty) return, up 66's tailgate, through the face to the maingate, then up an advance heading then some more headings. We the rode manriding coal belts to to bottom of the surface drift, then down the drift to the Piper training galery. An exciting day for a 15 year old..
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Post by smshogun on Nov 19, 2014 8:31:42 GMT -5
Moorgreen was like a rabbit warren anyway, the amount of roadways taped off but not sealed were immense and even though I went down plenty of mines I have never ever seen another pit like it with so many unstopped roadways, apparently it was all to do with gas removal as Moorgreen was a very gassy pit and there were a number of recorded incidents where men entered these old abandoned workings and suffered injury or death and I am aware they disposed of these records to cover this up; and the orders came from national level.
Moorgreen was unique in the fact they sank the shafts and then drove two drifts right through all the coal seams right down to Blackshale which was considered by Barber Walker as the deepest viable seam at that time and they worked Deep Soft, Top Hard, Piper, Low Main, Waterloo, and Blackshale seams and they had split level landings where one shaft landing would cover two seams and you either went up a drift or down a drift to get to two seams, in addition there were many other ways to get between seams due to the fact it was a rabbit warren.
It was connected to Pye Hill at Blackshale level and people believe this was the only connection, it wasn't, and it was connected to Watnall colliery where the brickyard currently stands and I was one of the last to come up Watnall shafts in the emergency winder bucket and we had to wait for 3 hours for a van as the one sent to meet us broke down and they had to send another from Plant Pool, but hey it was a nice sunny day so we topped up out suntan's.
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Post by colly0410 on Nov 19, 2014 10:38:37 GMT -5
I can remember seeing a sign pointing up a roadway off the Waterloo return saying "Watnall upcast shaft" but of course we didn't go up it.... I loved it when we went on 'nature walks' as we called them round old districts in the Piper seam. We were told to never ever wonder away from our group as if we got lost they'd probably never find us again - GULP. How the instructor knew where to go I'll never know, roadways seemed to go off in every direction possible, & as you say in your thread I never saw a stopping down there. When I went for similar 'nature walks' in old districts in Hucknalls Main Bright seam there were stopping's all over the place..
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Post by John on Nov 19, 2014 11:28:02 GMT -5
I did all my training at Hucknall No1, (Top pit) in 64, surface/underground, basic first year training and advanced apprentice training courses. Now that old pit was a real rabbit warren!! After we'd completed our daily tasks on U/G training, we'd get the Instructor to show us some of the old pit, there was an endless rope manrider installed for emergencies down to the No2 pit, endless roads still open and used as airways. I'd almost say one led to the old Watnall colliery, I know Babbington was linked to No1 pit.
My time training at No1 pit, there was only one shaft, the other had been capped, not sure if it had been filled in, so the shaft that was open had a counterweight and one cage, shaft was too narrow for two cages. The shaft served as a downcast shaft, ran on a leakage from No2 pits fan.
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Post by colly0410 on Nov 19, 2014 17:07:04 GMT -5
It was 1969/70 when I went round the Main Bright seam on nature walks, there seemed to be a lot of roads leading of the main roads with stopping's, I remember that you could hear hissing through some of them where air was leaking through, it would suddenly get louder, I asked the training officer why? He said "it's when the cage in the single cage downcast shaft go's past the Main Bright inset to the Deep Soft pit bottom, there's less air resistance when there's no cage in the shaft!" The hissing would go quieter when the cage came back up, you could tell where the cage was by the change in the hissing noise, air doors were the same..
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Post by bulwellbrian on Nov 20, 2014 11:23:38 GMT -5
I did all my training at Hucknall No1, (Top pit) in 64, surface/underground, basic first year training and advanced apprentice training courses. Now that old pit was a real rabbit warren!! After we'd completed our daily tasks on U/G training, we'd get the Instructor to show us some of the old pit, there was an endless rope manrider installed for emergencies down to the No2 pit, endless roads still open and used as airways. I'd almost say one led to the old Watnall colliery, I know Babbington was linked to No1 pit.
My time training at No1 pit, there was only one shaft, the other had been capped, not sure if it had been filled in, so the shaft that was open had a counterweight and one cage, shaft was too narrow for two cages. The shaft served as a downcast shaft, ran on a leakage from No2 pits fan. The training galleries at Hucknall No.1 were in the High Main seam and the access was the downcast shaft, ventilation was from the upcast shaft at Hucknall No.2. The Upcast shaft at Hucknall No.1 had not been capped or filled in, it had been deepened to the Deep Soft seam and served as a ventilation shaft for Babbington Colliery and was known as Babbington No.7 shaft. I believe all the insets at the High Main level had been closed off and the shaft no longer took part in Hucknall ventilation. The Babbington Deep Soft workings were well past this shaft. The shaft was still operational and some men were wound in & out there. They were taken by minibus from Babbington where they clocked in and got their lamps etc. I don't think they were face workers proberbly maintainance men or something. I imagine the shaft remained in use till Babbington closed.
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Post by welderpaul on Nov 20, 2014 14:55:10 GMT -5
I did all my training at Hucknall No1, (Top pit) in 64, surface/underground, basic first year training and advanced apprentice training courses. Now that old pit was a real rabbit warren!! After we'd completed our daily tasks on U/G training, we'd get the Instructor to show us some of the old pit, there was an endless rope manrider installed for emergencies down to the No2 pit, endless roads still open and used as airways. I'd almost say one led to the old Watnall colliery, I know Babbington was linked to No1 pit.
My time training at No1 pit, there was only one shaft, the other had been capped, not sure if it had been filled in, so the shaft that was open had a counterweight and one cage, shaft was too narrow for two cages. The shaft served as a downcast shaft, ran on a leakage from No2 pits fan. Really interesting John, was there much to see of the 'old times'? in the abandoned areas?
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Post by John on Nov 20, 2014 15:25:35 GMT -5
I did all my training at Hucknall No1, (Top pit) in 64, surface/underground, basic first year training and advanced apprentice training courses. Now that old pit was a real rabbit warren!! After we'd completed our daily tasks on U/G training, we'd get the Instructor to show us some of the old pit, there was an endless rope manrider installed for emergencies down to the No2 pit, endless roads still open and used as airways. I'd almost say one led to the old Watnall colliery, I know Babbington was linked to No1 pit.
My time training at No1 pit, there was only one shaft, the other had been capped, not sure if it had been filled in, so the shaft that was open had a counterweight and one cage, shaft was too narrow for two cages. The shaft served as a downcast shaft, ran on a leakage from No2 pits fan. Really interesting John, was there much to see of the 'old times'? in the abandoned areas? We couldn't stray too far, as usually we only had an hour at the most. we were pretty new to mining back then so really didn't know much of what to ask. If I had the same chances, I'd ask to see some of the 19th century workings. We were shown a longwall face that was hewn out by mining trainees, but that was fairly new, it was installed with wood props and a belt conveyor. Another time we must have had more time, as our instructor took as on a long walk, but we had to start back as his lamp had gone out. They only had workmens lamps. That was 50 years back, and my memory isn't what it used to be.
Much the same with Clifton, should have asked the pit bottom Deputy to really show me around the pit bottom areas, I know some older roads were accessible and leakage air was still ventilating them, you could hear air "hissing" from a large brick wall at the top of the main intake airway near the drive of the Cablebelt when it was standing.
Back then most of us walked around with "closed eyes" and missed many opportunities.
I'll have to find out what abandonment plans are available on DVD, if they are all on one or several DVD's and see if my budget would extend to at least several Nottingham pits, say Wollaton, Babbington, Bulwell, Newcastle, Watnall, Hucknall No1 and 2, Linby, Calverton, Gedling and Cliftons Deep Soft workings, I have the Deep Hard/Tuton and Piper abandonment plans of Clifton.
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Post by smshogun on Nov 20, 2014 20:50:04 GMT -5
John: Watnall was never connected to Hucknall pit but you have to consider that there were three Watnall pits over the years.
The Watnall myself, Colly, and Brian knew was the Watnall colliery which was located in Watnall Brickyard and was sunk to provide coal in the area, it absorbed both other Watnall workings and another number of older pits in the area, they built the brickyard solely for bricks and tiles based on the fact they had a colliery there to fire the kilns and its only quite recently they demolished the old brickyard chimneys.
Watnall was part of Barber Walker's empire and they had a railway built connecting Watnall, Moorgreen, and High Park collieries and if you know where to look you can still see traces of the old railway, most other parts are now covered with farmland.
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Post by John on Nov 21, 2014 6:53:55 GMT -5
John: Watnall was never connected to Hucknall pit but you have to consider that there were three Watnall pits over the years.
The Watnall myself, Colly, and Brian knew was the Watnall colliery which was located in Watnall Brickyard and was sunk to provide coal in the area, it absorbed both other Watnall workings and another number of older pits in the area, they built the brickyard solely for bricks and tiles based on the fact they had a colliery there to fire the kilns and its only quite recently they demolished the old brickyard chimneys.
Watnall was part of Barber Walker's empire and they had a railway built connecting Watnall, Moorgreen, and High Park collieries and if you know where to look you can still see traces of the old railway, most other parts are now covered with farmland. Thanks for that, I wondered if they were, I wasn't aware of Watnall Colly until a few years back when I started researching pits around that area. Every bit of info helps not only me, but anyone looking for info on collieries around the country.
I've been astounded at how many pits were actually around the city of Nottingham over the years, literally dozens of them.
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Post by smshogun on Nov 21, 2014 8:11:26 GMT -5
Because Eastwood was on the Notts/Derbys border in the Erewash Valley it was riddled with pits and if you want a list I can supply them.
Ilkeston was the nearest town on the Derbyshire side of the border and this is renowned for mining and brick making and has records of coal mining going back over a millennium; they put in the Ilkeston by-pass and found 57 unknown shafts when they excavated for this road, yet I have an old book showing 52 of these shafts which dates back to the 1600's so the question of why they didn't have them officially recorded arises if they are published in such a book.
At least 2 Ilkeston pubs cellars had access into old mine workings, the Rutland Hotel now demolished and has an Aldi standing on its site was one and the other was the Miners Arms on Derby Road/Belper St junction, the pub was still open and profitable in 2007 but taken over by a large consortium called Greene King who weren't happy with the level of profit and closed it, the building still remains as does its cellar.
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Post by John on Nov 21, 2014 8:50:12 GMT -5
Because Eastwood was on the Notts/Derbys border in the Erewash Valley it was riddled with pits and if you want a list I can supply them.
Ilkeston was the nearest town on the Derbyshire side of the border and this is renowned for mining and brick making and has records of coal mining going back over a millennium; they put in the Ilkeston by-pass and found 57 unknown shafts when they excavated for this road, yet I have an old book showing 52 of these shafts which dates back to the 1600's so the question of why they didn't have them officially recorded arises if they are published in such a book.
At least 2 Ilkeston pubs cellars had access into old mine workings, the Rutland Hotel now demolished and has an Aldi standing on its site was one and the other was the Miners Arms on Derby Road/Belper St junction, the pub was still open and profitable in 2007 but taken over by a large consortium called Greene King who weren't happy with the level of profit and closed it, the building still remains as does its cellar. Sure, please list them, I found a few like Turkey Hill, and a few others from the borehole logs, I know Eastwood had a fair few collieries and it's on the outcrop of one seam, I think it was the Top Hard seam, I'd have to go through my notes.
Are the mines that were on Bramcote Moor classed as the Erewash Valley?
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Post by smshogun on Nov 22, 2014 7:56:30 GMT -5
No, Eastwood was just outside Erewash Valley but most of their workings extended into the Erewash valley rich coal seams, so the pit head was located outside the Erewash valley but most of the workings were in it so tended to be termed Erewash valley pits based upon their workings as opposed to their pit head locations.
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Post by colly0410 on May 14, 2015 10:17:38 GMT -5
Moorgreen was unique in the fact they sank the shafts and then drove two drifts right through all the coal seams right down to Blackshale which was considered by Barber Walker as the deepest viable seam at that time and they worked Deep Soft, Top Hard, Piper, Low Main, Waterloo, and Blackshale seams and they had split level landings where one shaft landing would cover two seams and you either went up a drift or down a drift to get to two seams, in addition there were many other ways to get between seams due to the fact it was a rabbit warren.
Was the landing/inset for the Piper & Waterloo seam one of those 'split level landings' you were referring to? From what I can remember you went down a drift to the Piper seam & up a drift to the Waterloo seam. The Waterloo drift had a manriding conveyor belt in it & they used it to teach us trainees belt-riding skills..
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