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Post by andyexplorer on Mar 13, 2011 3:43:21 GMT -5
There is a major project going on in Manchester at Eastlands on the site of manchester citys ground which is built on the site's of the old Johnsons steel works and Bradford colliery the shafts here are 3080 ft deep and according to an update given to the football club they have been pouring hardcore and cement grout down them for two months ! i had a look at the contractors website and they say part of the work involves grouting the southern coal faces at the colliery does that mean someone has to actually go down to carry out this work ? as the southern coal faces here will be a very long way from the shafts ?
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Post by inbye on Mar 13, 2011 4:43:06 GMT -5
There is a major project going on in Manchester at Eastlands on the site of manchester citys ground which is built on the site's of the old Johnsons steel works and Bradford colliery the shafts here are 3080 ft deep and according to an update given to the football club they have been pouring hardcore and cement grout down them for two months ! i had a look at the contractors website and they say part of the work involves grouting the southern coal faces at the colliery does that mean someone has to actually go down to carry out this work ? as the southern coal faces here will be a very long way from the shafts ? Good question, Andy. Being from *over the border* I have little knowledge of this situation. I can't, however, imagine that it would be possible to physically reach the face of a pit, abandoned for so many years, especially at these depths. I'd be suprised if there was anything left standing other than a loco station, bunker or major junction. I'd also think that, although workings at that depth may have seen little water when in use, they'll surely have been been flooded long ago. It will be interesting to get more info on this story, I'm off to google it now but do you have any links?
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Post by andyexplorer on Mar 14, 2011 3:39:36 GMT -5
The contractors name is Buckinghams they are a land reclamation company i think that is where i found the bit about grouting the southern coal faces there is a lot of pages if you tap in Bradford pit or colliery or eastlands redevelopment this pit meant so much to this area and alot of people want a memorial placing outside the football ground in memory of all the people who worked and died at bradford pit the whole area grew up around the pit's and owe's it's existance to coal good hunting! i posted this higher up the blog it is a company that specialises in grouting www.benefil.co.uk/case-studies/mineshaft-asda-tonypandy/
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Post by inbye on Mar 14, 2011 16:24:32 GMT -5
Thanks Andy...my own search of the web showed one important fact....I'm crap with computers.
I'll give it another go......cheers
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Post by andyexplorer on Mar 14, 2011 19:14:48 GMT -5
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Post by martinnman on Nov 10, 2011 7:40:40 GMT -5
I remember when I used to be a surveyor, our society of which the old homes in Treeton Colliery site. The houses were built very close to two trees and drift. I know that when the tree is limited to the CAP is usually twice the diameter of the stem.
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Post by Wheldale on Nov 10, 2011 7:52:08 GMT -5
I did a load of setting out for the new houses on the treeton site. I remember seeing the drift cap.
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Post by spanker on Nov 10, 2011 11:26:52 GMT -5
Firstly happy b'day to me and to answer the question of shaft filling,i walked from Markham No2 one Saturday morning to Ireland colliery with a fellow deputy. Ireland had now been filled in a good number of years and we visited the pit bottom to touch the infill for sentimental reasons and i can say there were no stoppings applied around the pit bottom as you would have assumed to stop the fill being washed away at a later time and causing possible subsidence,they had simply thrown down fill as big as your fist and smaller down there as seen on links to Sherwood shaft filling.So i can only assume that the industrial estate built there now at Staveley may one day sink when the water has washed the hardcore along the pit bottm level and down the drifts ! There were quite a few older shafts as well in that pit yard i will ask my mate Tony who located and filled them in about the cappings. ;D
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Post by dazbt on Nov 10, 2011 12:58:07 GMT -5
Firstly happy b'day to me and to answer the question of shaft filling,i walked from Markham No2 one Saturday morning to Ireland colliery with a fellow deputy. Ireland had now been filled in a good number of years and we visited the pit bottom to touch the infill for sentimental reasons and i can say there were no stoppings applied around the pit bottom as you would have assumed to stop the fill being washed away at a later time and causing possible subsidence,they had simply thrown down fill as big as your fist and smaller down there as seen on links to Sherwood shaft filling.So i can only assume that the industrial estate built there now at Staveley may one day sink when the water has washed the hardcore along the pit bottm level and down the drifts ! There were quite a few older shafts as well in that pit yard i will ask my mate Tony who located and filled them in about the cappings. ;D "Breithlá sona duit" ............................... as they say in Ireland, Happy birthday Spanker, may you live a hundred years and your shaft never suffer the indignity of subsidence.
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Post by mickyf on Nov 14, 2011 13:00:15 GMT -5
Hi Wheldale,
I have a step by step of the procedure which we did whilst being deployed on a shaft infill at a local colliery whilst working for British Coal but unfortunately i dont know how to upload the 2 x .jpg files i have edited on? if i could i would upload them for you and you could have a read at them..
stan
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Post by John on Nov 14, 2011 14:03:22 GMT -5
Hi Wheldale, I have a step by step of the procedure which we did whilst being deployed on a shaft infill at a local colliery whilst working for British Coal but unfortunately i dont know how to upload the 2 x .jpg files i have edited on? if i could i would upload them for you and you could have a read at them.. stan Stan, you cannot upload files from your computer to Proboard sites, for their server protection. Open a free Photobucket account, of Flickr or one similar, I use Photobucket personally. Upload the files to that account, if its Photobucket, you cill need to copy the "img" file of it, just move your mouse over it and click, that saves it, then just paste the code here, it already carries the img tags, so no further tags are necessary. It should look something like this when pasted. [IMG*]http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u45/pitman47/yorkshire49skiersspringcolliery.jpg[*/IMG] I added the stars to confuse the software. But that's a direct C&P of a photo in my Photobucket account. If you get any problems let me know.
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Post by mickyf on Nov 14, 2011 15:45:16 GMT -5
Cheers John i will give it ago, thanks
stan
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Post by mickyf on Nov 16, 2011 8:16:01 GMT -5
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Post by mickyf on Nov 16, 2011 8:23:22 GMT -5
Here is the reading and picture to your Shaft Infilling Wheldale, hope these two have come out ok,.... Thanks John for the tip on how to do it.. stan
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Post by Wheldale on Nov 16, 2011 14:02:44 GMT -5
Many thanks mickyf. That clears that up. When you did the shaft filling did you strip out the guides and pipes etc? Thanks once again.
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Post by mickyf on Nov 17, 2011 4:59:59 GMT -5
Hi Wheldale Yes where applicable the guide ropes came out and the pipework etc and more or less anything there was the odd girders across the sump at the bottom of the shaft where left and any other inlets to the shaft where properley sealed, so basically that was it....
stan
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Post by spanker on Nov 27, 2011 15:58:39 GMT -5
So having looked at your sketch Micky of the way we filled shafts the one at Ireland colliery in Derbyshire had not been properly plugged at the pit btm level,just like the one on the Welsh site uploaded by Pontylad? Unfortunately i had given most of my underground pictures i had secretly taken away to an old guy who used to be a neighbour and was part of a photographic society he moved away and alas is no longer with us. So i cannot evidence my ramblings but i do have one of a young deputy sat on a bank of switches waiting anxiously for the flash to upload if i can do it. I did have lots of photos of headings just after the Bilsthorpe accident had occured which were taken at Markham Colliery by myself on the back shift showing what i can only describe as a disaster waiting to happen ,roof bolted roadways in old Derbyshire worked out pits !which were to be used for retreat faces very scary i thought and was the reason why i decided to leave the industry at that time,nowt better than rings over your ed.
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Post by John on Nov 27, 2011 16:10:34 GMT -5
So having looked at your sketch Micky of the way we filled shafts the one at Ireland colliery in Derbyshire had not been properly plugged at the pit btm level,just like the one on the Welsh site uploaded by Pontylad? Unfortunately i had given most of my underground pictures i had secretly taken away to an old guy who used to be a neighbour and was part of a photographic society he moved away and alas is no longer with us. So i cannot evidence my ramblings but i do have one of a young deputy sat on a bank of switches waiting anxiously for the flash to upload if i can do it. I did have lots of photos of headings just after the Bilsthorpe accident had occured which were taken at Markham Colliery by myself on the back shift showing what i can only describe as a disaster waiting to happen ,roof bolted roadways in old Derbyshire worked out pits !which were to be used for retreat faces very scary i thought and was the reason why i decided to leave the industry at that time,nowt better than rings over your ed. Don't you have the negatives???
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Post by spanker on Nov 27, 2011 16:22:59 GMT -5
I don't John they went with the old guy it's true what my wives have said about me i don't collect much just women.
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