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Post by dazbt on Jun 19, 2015 6:58:16 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jun 19, 2015 7:58:18 GMT -5
Are they the last two deep coal mines?? |
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Post by tygwyn on Jun 19, 2015 11:36:24 GMT -5
Hatfield.
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Post by John on Jun 19, 2015 11:39:40 GMT -5
Isn't Hatfield on care and maintenance and soon to be closed due to no interest??
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Post by Wheldale on Jun 19, 2015 17:00:27 GMT -5
I believe Hatfield is still turning coal, it's got enough money to keep going until next year.
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Post by dazbt on Jun 25, 2015 11:43:09 GMT -5
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Post by dazbt on Jun 25, 2015 15:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by Wheldale on Jun 25, 2015 16:34:20 GMT -5
I remember before the election that Mr Miliband was asked what help Labour would give the mines if they won the election, his reply was that there was very little that Labour could do to help. Shame he wasn't concerned more about his constituents before the election.
Politics aside it would be a great shame if Hatfield closed, a lot of coal to the east still to be worked. One day we will need coal again, our energy policy is a complete shambles!! I was only reading today that the Germans are scrapping carbon levies on coal to keep open mines and coal power stations running as they have a looming energy crisis.
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Post by tygwyn on Jun 25, 2015 17:13:50 GMT -5
I believe its the Lignite opencast`s that Germany is preserving ,the remaining deep mines are still due to close shortly.
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Post by dazbt on Jun 26, 2015 1:13:59 GMT -5
I believe its the Lignite opencast`s that Germany is preserving ,the remaining deep mines are still due to close shortly. I believe that Germany's deep mines are not due to close until 2018, not a long time in the life of a colliery, but plenty of time for political reversal if it suits requirements at the time. |
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Post by Wheldale on Jun 26, 2015 2:13:02 GMT -5
Lignite is the dirtiest coal you can get. While the UK has doubled the carbon levy this year Germany has cancelled it. With coal power stations closing in the UK because of the carbon levy, our energy security is wafer thin. Germany on the other hand appreciates that renewables are not perfect, that is why they are sticking with coal.
Coal from Kellingley, Thoresby and Hatfield is being replaced by imported coal. It is said that in 10 years time there will only be one coal power station in the UK. I don't know if gas will replace coal as certainly renewables can't.
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Post by Wheldale on Jun 29, 2015 16:04:17 GMT -5
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Post by tygwyn on Jun 29, 2015 17:48:03 GMT -5
Sad news indeed,no market for their coal,
Them wood chips from the US must be coming in very cheap.
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Post by colly0410 on Jun 30, 2015 3:38:34 GMT -5
I wonder how much bunker or diesel oil those ships bringing across the woodchips use, & how much pollution they cause? Bet they wont tell us..
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Post by John on Jun 30, 2015 5:28:49 GMT -5
Ships only use diesel when departing or arriving at ports, at sea they use heavy oil, a virtual waste product of oil refining, it's very cheap but produces a lot of smoke, hence the ban on using it when docking. I found this out when the wife and I sailed on a modern container ship from Australia to the states a number of years back. Those engines are huge too.
Regarding the wood chips, why would they use wood chips in power generation?? I'd imagine coal would be far superior as the heat source.
I know the chips are a waste product of wood products, but usually they are pelleted for the domestic heating market over here. Previous to that, saw mills and wood product companies burned the waste.
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Post by tygwyn on Jun 30, 2015 6:12:21 GMT -5
The wood chips in question come from the South East of you John,Louisiana and Carolina to supply Drax.
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Post by John on Jun 30, 2015 6:51:59 GMT -5
The wood chips in question come from the South East of you John,Louisiana and Carolina to supply Drax. |
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Post by Wheldale on Jun 30, 2015 8:50:14 GMT -5
It is being said on some Facebook sites that coaling stopped last night, stoppings are being put in place this week and shaft filling will commence on Friday! If true then that has got to be one of the shortest closures in history!! |
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Post by John on Jun 30, 2015 9:31:48 GMT -5
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Post by John on Jun 30, 2015 9:34:31 GMT -5
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Post by colly0410 on Jun 30, 2015 13:31:49 GMT -5
Ships only use diesel when departing or arriving at ports, at sea they use heavy oil, a virtual waste product of oil refining, it's very cheap but produces a lot of smoke, hence the ban on using it when docking. I found this out when the wife and I sailed on a modern container ship from Australia to the states a number of years back. Those engines are huge too.
. When we went on a cruise from Miami to Bahamas & back they showed us some bunker oil, it looked like black sludge & smelt yuk. They mentioned about the ports getting upset about the exhaust smoke so used diesel near the American coast. She didn't mention the Bahamas coast though, so maybe their not so strict.. |
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Post by dazbt on Jul 10, 2015 2:02:48 GMT -5
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