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Post by Ragger on Apr 22, 2005 5:09:36 GMT -5
Some mining machines here to jog the memory, or in some cases illuminate the memory.
Don't know if anyone here worked with them, it would be nice to hear their tales if they did.
Gloster-getter.(Joy-Sullivan).
Ace.(BJD).
Shelton loader.
Colmol Mining machine.
Goodman Duckbill Loader.
Jeffery 61 telescopic conveyor loader.
Samson stripper.
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Post by dazb on Apr 22, 2005 5:40:59 GMT -5
BJD produced two machines called the Ace, ( a sort of card trick, two Ace of Diamonds !!). I presume the the one that you refer to was the original mechanical haulage for chain cutting machines, if so then I did.
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Post by John on Apr 22, 2005 7:33:22 GMT -5
No Bill, never even seen any of those machines. Oldest machine I've worked on was an old M&C3 loader, and old scraper chains.
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Post by Ragger on Apr 22, 2005 9:16:12 GMT -5
Only saw a photo in an old book of the "ACE" it was a compressed air driven coal-cutter.
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Post by John on Apr 22, 2005 9:39:34 GMT -5
There's a piccie of a Hopkinson "Black Star" cutter in a book I have..
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Post by dazb on Apr 22, 2005 10:24:22 GMT -5
Like most machine haulage units at the time, the ACE could be either electric motor or compressed air turbine driven. I recall during the 1960's that at least on the east side of Frickley Barnsley seam all the faces were compressed air, the shearers that I knew of were AB 16" with hydraulic haulage and as Chippy states these were a mechanical fitter's nightmare and an electrician's dream, not many wires in an air turbine.
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Post by Ragger on Apr 23, 2005 5:25:25 GMT -5
Don't believe I know of the Hopkinson "Black Star" cutter. Any chance of posting a picture of it John.
If that's not possible perhaps you can email it.
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Post by John on May 7, 2005 15:19:58 GMT -5
Don't believe I know of the Hopkinson "Black Star" cutter. Any chance of posting a picture of it John. If that's not possible perhaps you can email it. I'll scan the piccie for you Bill and send it on. What about the Huwood Slicer Loader too?? |
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Post by Ragger on May 8, 2005 6:05:51 GMT -5
Thanks John, that would be great.
I have a picture of the Huwood Slicer Loader, I think you sent it to me many moons ago. ;D
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Post by John on May 8, 2005 7:28:35 GMT -5
Thanks John, that would be great. I have a picture of the Huwood Slicer Loader, I think you sent it to me many moons ago. ;D Don't recall Bill, but I suppose thats age thats caught up with me. I'll scan the piccie tomorrow Bill. |
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Post by amanda on Sept 17, 2006 13:03:54 GMT -5
I think the oldest machine I ever worked with was the old "Wafflers", looked like the old coal cutters. We had them in the Main Gate stable holes, but this was when the AFC mounted Trepaner (not sure if I spelled that right  ) was in use. mand  |
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Post by John on Sept 18, 2006 6:17:06 GMT -5
Not really sure I know what you mean! I was used to the AB15 cutters in both stableholes, and heard about the Dawson Miller stablehole machine. At Cotgrave they had eliminated the T/G stables altogether by using a Sumping Shearer.
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Post by dazbt2 on Sept 18, 2006 7:14:30 GMT -5
Wafflers and AB15 are to (or were) to some extent, the same animal. I think the waffler type that Mand refers to was basically a precutter machine with chain jib that was fixed to a frame baseplate, hydraulic rams were attached to each side and and applied to slew the jib in a fixed arc. The were used in headings and stable hole corners. I think that most of them were actually AB16 gearheads. There was another application used as an attachment to the older style precutters that was also called a waffler, used for .............. your project for this week Mr Admin. |
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Post by John on Sept 18, 2006 8:34:09 GMT -5
Sounds like that machine Huwood made in the 50's/early60's Daz. I've only seen that one in a Huwoods notebook. Errr making waffles??  |
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Post by amanda on Sept 18, 2006 9:51:30 GMT -5
Hmmmm I'm affraid I really never knew the exact name for them we just always used to call the Wafflers  It just had a jib that cut out at the bottom of the face of the stable hole, then the rest was just fired down and the jib was used to clean up and deliver directly on to the stage loader. Up untill I was 18 I spent my time as a "ganger", and then soon as I could did my face training and spent most of the time on the "rips, chocking or snaking". It wasn't untill I went to Gedling and on the headings that I really had much to do with machine driving and that was on the Dosco roadheaders (MKIIB and MKIII). mand |
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Post by John on Sept 18, 2006 10:27:40 GMT -5
The Dosco MK2 roadheader was a nice machine. First encounter I had with those was at Cotgrave. Next time was at Boulby in North Yorks, where a "Green crew" set a world record driving a road down to the West Links from the back of the underground workshops. Fair enough, it was in Potash and salt, but not bad for a crew that had never worked with roadheaders before.
After that, all roads were driven with 120hp Heliminers with Joy SC10 shuttlecars.
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Post by John on Jul 5, 2007 17:12:40 GMT -5
Here's a golden oldie, many were manufactured, but none survived the scrap merchant, it was the first cutter loader!. The Meco-Moore Slicer Loader.  |
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Post by Mick on Mar 4, 2008 14:41:58 GMT -5
The old ab15 was also fitted with a swan neck jib,and was mounted on the loader.
We had one on blocking bed 11s at gomersal so we could under cut the stable.
Once it was cut and fired it would clean up the stable.
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Post by Mick on Jul 2, 2008 13:59:23 GMT -5
Hi all as anyone on forum seen a ab15 with multi jibs on,one on top of another.
I remmber some lads from are pit going to Lofthouse to try and salvage 2 for us
to use.
I dont think they got them out though.
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Post by Mick on Jul 20, 2008 9:05:02 GMT -5
Can anyone remmber theDosco inpack ripper,We had 2 at Wheldale in the 80s
They were all used in the tail gates to knock the ripping down.
Also we had one that was mounted on a monorail but was a nightmare to work every time
we started to knock the ripping down it would try to push the rings out.
Mick.
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Post by John on Jul 20, 2008 10:12:14 GMT -5
No, just the Mk1 and Mk1A Roadheaders.
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 18, 2010 16:51:13 GMT -5
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Post by John on Feb 18, 2010 18:31:13 GMT -5
That's a novel machine!!
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 20, 2010 10:34:26 GMT -5
 Heres a old picture of a face at New Monckton 3 and 4. Taken in 1952, the machine is just in sight, the supports are very primitive! State of the art at the time! |
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Post by John on Feb 20, 2010 10:54:45 GMT -5
Friction props and bars, pre advancing powered supports. The bars are link bars, they were still in use at the stable holes in the 60's and 70's with Dowty hydraulic props.
Once self advancing powered supports came on the scene, face production doubled . Less men, quicker supports advancement and setting and a hell of a lot safer.
Most of those faces had pneumatic rams to push the AFC over.
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Post by Mick on Feb 25, 2010 18:26:56 GMT -5
Hi Wheldale,no thats not the ripper im talking about.
The one that i used to drive did'nt have tracks it moved on sleds and it did'nt have a shovel other than that it looks the same.
the first one went into 43s tail gate then they put one in 44s or 45s tail gate.
Mick.
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Post by John on Feb 26, 2010 7:48:54 GMT -5
That wouldn't be the "Peak" ripper would it Mick? |
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Post by Mick on Feb 26, 2010 8:36:06 GMT -5
Thats the one John,i was offered a job with them going round the pits showing them how to use it.
Mick.
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Post by John on Feb 26, 2010 9:08:43 GMT -5
Revolutionary in it's time Mick, but in hindsight, I wonder why nobody though of stablehole and ripping elimination back then, by having an advancing gate road??
Instead of having a dangerous ripping lip, and eight men operating the gate ends, we could have had safe face ends, and eliminate the stablehole crew, again a dangerous part of the face.
Simple when we look back.
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Post by Wheldale on Feb 26, 2010 13:21:54 GMT -5
Hi Mick,
When you say 43's, 44, 45's are you talking about the P43 etc in the Flockton thin seams? My dad took me on P54's when the mine was being salvaged in 1988. My dad was the Personnel Manager, my uncle was also the Undermanager there.
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